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Looking East



Joined: 08 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Blood in the stairwell Reply with quote

I've been here for over a month and haven't posted much. I really haven't had the need to gather info or Korea-bash since I've been having so much fun. I've been to the mud festival, a concert, out every weekend in a new place, meeting tons of people, and, oh yeah, teaching. But something happened last night that I want feedback on.

I was playing cards with four other friends and when we finished we decided to go to Hongdae. It was about 12:30 am or so and as we got out of the elevator on the first floor of my friends building we saw BLOOD EVERYWHERE!!! I'm not kidding, the floor, the walls, it was surreal. We were pretty lit on soju and beer already so we all looked at each other to kind of confirm this was really happening. Outside There were two cops, a man, a woman (bleeding from a gash on her arm) and a boy. We made our way by them and the woman grabs my arm and begs me for help (said my friend who knows Korean). Three of us stay and try to find out what happened and what she wants. The other, smarter two, bail.

What we found out was that she was being beaten by her husband and pushed down the stairs when she reached out and "cut herself" on the postal box in the lobby. The boy was their son, who didn't want to see his father go to jail. He was lying and said she fell. The cops didn't want to make a fuss, so they agreed, she fell. The husband cleaned the mess and the woman (hysterical), my two friends and I argued with the police until they threatened me with violence and jail for calling them liars.

Like I said, my experience here has been so great I haven't had the need to post for awhile, but my god, this was gruesome. Both in the sense that it was a bloody mess, and the total disregard for basic human rights.
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your honeymoon period is over.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to K-land!
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
Your honeymoon period is over.


Yep. In Korea you have to pick your battles and learn to put up with stuff you don't approve of.
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Looking East



Joined: 08 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
Your honeymoon period is over.


so true. an understatement actually. Confused
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never ever get involved with a domestic dispute, Any Korean beating his wife or girlfriend look the other way and walk. I know it sucks, but there is nothing you can do. The only outcome will end up being very bad for the foreigner who gets involved.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

comingsoon wrote:
My limited experience in Korea tells me that foreigners usually come out on the loosing end. I hope this doesn't happen to you again.


Just to add a well deserved counter balance, I experienced something similar (although even worse than what's described here) in the UK.

5am I heard muffled screams for help (her mouth was split in half) I went outside (I was on a late session on the PC) and this women came running up to me 'help me, help me, help me' 'my husband tried to kill me; bash my brains in' (the lady was Spanish, her husband Chinese.) She covered me in her thick coagulated blood when she grabbed me, it was disgusting, it was all clotted. The little Chinese husband ran out of the house and I shouted abuse at him, but didn't go near the crazy little fucker.

This womens skull was fractured and her filtrum was split in half. Then she started saying 'my kids, my kids' and I thought 'oh *beep* he's done the kids and then tried to do her.'

I entered her house with trepidation...looked right BAM pints and pints of blood on a shag pile beige carpet, one of the most shocking sights I've ever seen (blood is very shocking in big quantities, you'll only know what I mean if you've seen something similar) and then I saw the statue, a fucking huge solid marble statue. She told the police after (she was totally hysterical and beyond reason at the time) that her husband battered her with this huge, heavy statue WHILE SHE WAS ASLEEP. It was attempted murder, no question.

Anyway, I thought, jesus, the kids must be dead and then i saw them scared shitless at the top of the stairs, I'll never forget it they were so young; horrible memory.

point is, this shit happens the world over, and even in the UK the police were clueless (one of them told me '...and the thing is, unless she makes a complaint, we can't prosecute him'; this was absolute bollocks, even I knew that the UK parliament had recently passed legislation that meant victims of domestic abuse didn't have to place charges; the CPS can directly prosecute)
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Frankly Mr Shankly



Joined: 13 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Blood in the stairwell Reply with quote

Looking East wrote:
I've been here for over a month and haven't posted much. I really haven't had the need to gather info or Korea-bash since I've been having so much fun. I've been to the mud festival, a concert, out every weekend in a new place, meeting tons of people, and, oh yeah, teaching. But something happened last night that I want feedback on.

I was playing cards with four other friends and when we finished we decided to go to Hongdae. It was about 12:30 am or so and as we got out of the elevator on the first floor of my friends building we saw BLOOD EVERYWHERE!!! I'm not kidding, the floor, the walls, it was surreal. We were pretty lit on soju and beer already so we all looked at each other to kind of confirm this was really happening. Outside There were two cops, a man, a woman (bleeding from a gash on her arm) and a boy. We made our way by them and the woman grabs my arm and begs me for help (said my friend who knows Korean). Three of us stay and try to find out what happened and what she wants. The other, smarter two, bail.

What we found out was that she was being beaten by her husband and pushed down the stairs when she reached out and "cut herself" on the postal box in the lobby. The boy was their son, who didn't want to see his father go to jail. He was lying and said she fell. The cops didn't want to make a fuss, so they agreed, she fell. The husband cleaned the mess and the woman (hysterical), my two friends and I argued with the police until they threatened me with violence and jail for calling them liars.

Like I said, my experience here has been so great I haven't had the need to post for awhile, but my god, this was gruesome. Both in the sense that it was a bloody mess, and the total disregard for basic human rights.


Never, never, never get involved. I myself saw a guy passed out in Ilsan last night, lying half on the pavement, half on the road and sat there until the cops came to sort it out. Your involvement in these issues can land you in serious trouble in Korea, sad to say.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think something like this is Korea exclusive? S*it like this happens in almost every major city in the US. You obviously haven't been in areas of New York, Chicago, LA, or Detroit... Rolling Eyes

Hopefully the woman is smart enough to seek out shelters for domestic violence, although i will be honest and say that Korea (like Japan, China, etc) is still very much a male-dominated society with the law leaning towards the husband over that of the wife. Still there are options for her.
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