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tombirner



Joined: 19 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Since people are so eager to criticize America... Reply with quote

...I figured I'd spread the word when we do something good for the world. Hopefully I won't start yet another political debate here...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080717/ap_on_go_co/global_aids
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Cornfed



Joined: 14 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're enriching cronies of the regime while effecting the brutal murder by poisoning of millions of people under the guise of treating a virus that doesn't even exist. Death to Amerika.
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pootle



Joined: 05 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Since people are so eager to criticize America... Reply with quote

The other side of PEPFAR. Let�s hope they have listened to HIV practitioners and have taken their comments on board with this extension.

http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/hiv-aids/issues/problems-with-pepfar-1.html
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/07/10/fix-pepfar-prevent-hiv-infections

Abstinence and monogamy can help stop infection but only if you�re able to negotiate your sexual relationships, which many in the world cannot. If your husband sleeps around and then rapes you; if you are a child abused by male relatives; if you are forced into unsafe prostitution because of poverty or violence .....etc. and sadly etc.

I have many friends working in the HIV field who appreciate the US funding but wish that the restrictions could be lifted to enable them, as professionals within their countries, to decide how best to target the spend. What works in Uganda does not work in other countries and approaches must be informed by local culture and circumstances.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cornfed wrote:
They're enriching cronies of the regime while effecting the brutal murder by poisoning of millions of people under the guise of treating a virus that doesn't even exist. Death to Amerika.


I agree with this except the absolutely batshit crazy part, which unfortunately is all of it.
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

much of my assessment of what western governments do in africa hinges on 2 things.

first

"what can we take?"

second

"what can we get away with?"

anyone who doesn't see the future of africa as being something less like colonization and more like the matrix is a fool.
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A2Steve



Joined: 10 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: Since people are so eager to criticize America... Reply with quote

tombirner wrote:
...I figured I'd spread the word when we do something good for the world. Hopefully I won't start yet another political debate here...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080717/ap_on_go_co/global_aids



Just remember, no good deed ever goes unpunished. Next I hear they're planning a protest to mark the anniversary of America's entry into WWII...
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Since people are so eager to criticize America... Reply with quote

tombirner wrote:
...I figured I'd spread the word when we do something good for the world. Hopefully I won't start yet another political debate here...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080717/ap_on_go_co/global_aids


HIV is way over estimated in Africa. This is a major and disgusting improper allocation of finite medical resources. In Uganda, for example, HIV/AIDS accounts for 4% of mortality and 25% of medical bucks.

AIDS is/was the first politically correct disease whereby leftwing social dogma squashed good science.
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tombirner



Joined: 19 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
much of my assessment of what western governments do in africa hinges on 2 things.

first

"what can we take?"

second

"what can we get away with?"

anyone who doesn't see the future of africa as being something less like colonization and more like the matrix is a fool.


So... what do you think the U.S. government is trying to take by spending billions upon billions to fight AIDS in Africa (and other places)? Not being sarcastic... just curious.
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U-S-A! U-S-A!

(That was the response you wanted, right OP Question )
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a) I'm Canadian
b) The world is way better off with America than it would be without.

I got to make this point. The USA is the only nation on earth and in history, that, at the end of WWII, could have the whole world in grips, could have troops in every important part of the world, could have the sole ability to wipe out any nation that wanted said troops out and yet chose to simply give the world back to itself and left money, food, and babies with a claim to a future green card. Really, compare what Russia did to the territory it owned. Compare even how long it took the British to get out of its colonies.

America is a fine nation. Sometimes its leaders suck.

That said. Ah hem. When you are the only remaining super power, when you choose to ring the world with nuclear weapons, when you really do have the power to wipe out any nation at a whim, you do have to accept you're going to be held to a very very high standard.

We hold cops to higher standards. We hold teachers and doctors and judges to higher standards.

Same same.
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browneyedgirl



Joined: 17 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something good about America...304 laureates of the Nobel Prize, which is more than any other country.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
a)...


Your post is well-written, I agree, and cheers for that.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pfft! Americans. Rolling Eyes I spoke to one the other day who had never heard of David Beckham - fancy that!



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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
pfft! Americans. Rolling Eyes I spoke to one the other day who had never heard of David Beckham - fancy that!



Twisted Evil


Yet talking to people from the UK, they say he is a 'has been' and he was never that good on the pitch to begin with...


fancy that...
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ReeseDog



Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David who?
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