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jillbean1217



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus, people, give the girl a break! I haven't even left the states yet, and I am sure that my experience is going to be quite similar. Now, I know that you are all very self-sufficient, intelligent, non-whiners, as you so eloquently prove yourself to be time and time again on the board, but don't jump all over her! If she wants to complain, let her! Is there anyone holding a gun to your head and making you read her post? No! I think the people here could use a huge helping of "if you don't have anything nice to say..."

Anyway, OP, I wouldn't worry about it. Just try to take a breath and realize that you are doing far better than a lot of other people would be in your situation. I spent the summer in France last year and had less severe problems but stressed out even more than you did. Everytime I went to the grocery store I had to ward off heart palpitations. Everything takes getting used to, and once you acclimate, you'll be able to look back on this and laugh. I'd, for one, would love to hear more about yoru experiences--don't worry about venting here, personally, I think it's good to hear what other people are going through. Besides, we all have those days when we just need to vent, and I think that your experience in Korea so far has given you that right. Everyone just needs to remember that such a huge shift in environment and living style is bound to stress others out. Just relax and pay attention to the nice people on the board, there are a few, I think.
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kentucker's posts are way better.
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lithium



Joined: 18 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolegirl wrote:
The whole caulking incident was merely something I thought of at E-mart. I was trying to escape from the lady chasing me with the mop. And I went into home improvment aisle and I thought what a good idea, I will caulk my bathroom. I have no friends, I have no work, I have no internet. But obvioulsy I am f-ing a retard and can't figure it out. So there went that idea.


Are you working near Incheon?
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Lith, that is THE WORST pickup line I have heard in a LONG TIME. Laughing

But Nolie, the caulking story is a gem. Bet you've watched your share of the Home network, eh?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I have not seen one foreigner at this point.


That's normal unless, like many posters on here, you live in Itaewon or Gangnam. 99.99% of the time, you will be in a sea of Koreans every time you go shopping or go anywhere.
Oh, and if you need to find a Korean who speaks English-ee, good luck with that one. Recruiters websites promise everyone a Korea where "almost everyone knows English." Not true.
The ONLY Koreans who learn English use it to get you to join their cult, I mean church, or to ask for a hot date- this happens to men, too.
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Starla



Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP, sorry to hear about your troubles but they will get better in time. I think you're just going through the first stage of culture shock. Maybe it would've been a good idea to read up on Korea before you came and speak to some Korean people beforehand. At least you would have been prepared a little bit for what's to come but I guess what's done is done.

I just went on vacation to Korea for two weeks...a country that I thought I loved...from a distance. Well, I got lost several times. At one point, I wanted to magically fly back home ASAP because I was lost and alone in Busan because my Korean friend had abandoned me. I was on the verge of tears. I couldn't deal with how hard it was to do the simplest things because of the language barrier. I couldn't deal with the lack of foreigners either and was desperately searching for a non-Korean face in a crowd. I had heard that Korea was homogenous but walking around in Seoul, it only hit me then just how homogenous it is. I felt silenced and couldn't even make small talk with people or mutter even a word if I didn't meet one of my friends.

Then I met some people who spoke English and the world opened up to me. I plan to make learning Korean a priority when I'm there and will start classes as soon as I can. I recommend it for meeting other English speakers too. I have a couple of foreigner friends in Korea already that I made during my vacation so I think I'll manage okay but I would be kind of scared to go back not knowing anybody myself so I sympathize with you. Like another poster said, talk to Korean men. They will be interested in you just because you are a foreigner and will love the damsel in distress thing. Many will gladly help you and perhaps even show you around. It beats spending your time alone and anxious.

In spite of all the difficulties I faced while I was on vacation, I still want to go back. Some of it has to do with the one or two friends I have waiting there for me and some of it has to do with my appreciation for the culture but I think you have to have one of those two factors to really enjoy your time there and not want to run back home. I wish you good luck and it may get bad before it gets better. But Korean people in general are warm and kind so they will help you even if you don't ask. Be very thankful you're in a country like that.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of what you girls write is what I remember of living in Spain twenty-five years ago. Trying to buy toilet paper and light bulbs at the corner Ma and Pa store. Wasn't doing those charades, so customers would go out on the street to find an english speaker to translate. I still love spanish people to this day, and italians, and greeks. There are so many beautiful people all over.

Just not always everyone is, so use some caution in your acquaintances. You'll get the vibes and know.

If you want a great novel to take along on the plane ride (laptop battery'll only get you so far), James Michener's The Drifters. About draft-dodgers and other assorted expats in Europe, Africa, and beyond. Wonderful...

Quote:

The Drifters definitely gives you a thirst for travel to those wonderful exotic places ... When i read The Drifters i was 18 years old and it blew me away. ...
www.amazon.com/Drifters-James-Michener/dp/0449213536
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I thought Kentucker 4 was my fav. poster. Looks like we've got a new one!! Cool

Korea can definitely seem a bit confusing if you run out there suddenly, not knowing the language or how to read, or how things work here. I think for a new person, it all builds up into a confusing mess! And you can go crazy... hehe. Without a foreigner friend to guide you along, it's pretty easy to get lost and it takes much longer to enjoy yourself. Meet some people on this board, chill with them, learn the language, ... take it all in slowly.

There's this book I read... the words on the front say "Don't panic!"
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A2Steve



Joined: 10 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: WTF Reply with quote

nolegirl wrote:

Ok, for all of you new people who are coming over who have no foreign teachers at your school be aware life will suck.

Oh yeah, still no hot water nor internet.



a bit dramatic, I think. Believe it or not, civilization survived millenia without the internet, OR running hot water.........

It is about adventure though. Find a good group of foreigners in your area to help you out. Or did you alienate them as well?

Just remember, it may help to break the prozac in half next time. Wink
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: WTF Reply with quote

^

I bet she has hot water, but doesn't know it. Cuz it is all in a control panel on a wall, in a language she doesn't understand...

Hey, nolegirl. Check your wall for a panel. Push the big button on it. Then play around with it until u get hot water.

Hope I solved one of ur problems.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nolegirl,

you have to give yourself time to adjust, you have to accept that you are feeling disorientated and shit right now. it will all start to become normal, but it will take about two months before you dont feel zoned out.

I sympathise with the bread craving, just go to a supermarket and buy some comfort food even though it's expensive, it helps at the beginning.

its not your fault about the food, Korean food is patently a shit cuisine. In my experience, Korean food is the worst food I've ever had as a general national cuisine. Even seafood lovers (which I admit, I'm not) find that Koreans manage to butcher seafood by the way they cook it. It's not their talent.

Some of the more neutral food that are easier on noobs are dolsot bibimbap, doncas (unhealthy and not even Korean), bokumbap (possibly the weakest fried rice I've ever tasted anywhere in Asia; these guys really can't cook for shit) Gigae (they ruin it by putting spam and instant noodles into it) and there are others, but these are the least offensive. It's like if you are stuck under 5 tons of farm machinery and in blinding agony and really, the best option is to saw your leg off with a blunt pen knife;that kind of sums up these foods. The food is something that makes me not want to re-sign next year.

Try the Japanese restaurants, they are a bit more expensive but a lot more palatable.

If you go to the American and Australian restaurants then you will get very fat so avoid these.

Try buying veg from the street markets and cook your own fried rice and stuff.
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DrOctagon



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you go to the American and Australian restaurants then you will get very fat so avoid these.


I eat at American restaurants all the time in the States and I'm skinny (5' 8", 135 pounds).
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aka Dave



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolegirl wrote:
The whole caulking incident was merely something I thought of at E-mart. I was trying to escape from the lady chasing me with the mop.


Korea is the land of agressive housekeeping. Where I work the (female) housekeepers hang out in the men's bathroom. Some of them will mop by you while you're doing your bizzness at the urinal. I have a three hour class to teach and I'm being attacked by an ajumma with an angry mop.
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ESL Milk "Everyday



Joined: 12 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolegirl wrote:
I don't think people understand the drastic nature of having no foreigners at your school and your school not willing to help you. I am on my own, can nobody relate to this


I know what you're saying... I can recall walking around the streets of some godawful rural dump of a town being really angry and wishing everyone around me dead on a regular basis, wanting nothing more than to get the hell away from everything.

Two months later, I realized that there actually were other foreigners in town... but by that time I had already given up and accepted a job elsewhere, and did a midnight run about a week later.

I suppose not staying for the year there is a big source of regret for me now... so if you can bear it, I would definitely advise sticking it out... you'll meet people and settle in eventually!
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jillbean1217 wrote:
Jesus, people, give the girl a break! I haven't even left the states yet, and I am sure that my experience is going to be quite similar. Now, I know that you are all very self-sufficient, intelligent, non-whiners, as you so eloquently prove yourself to be time and time again on the board, but don't jump all over her! If she wants to complain, let her! Is there anyone holding a gun to your head and making you read her post? No! I think the people here could use a huge helping of "if you don't have anything nice to say..."

Anyway, OP, I wouldn't worry about it. Just try to take a breath and realize that you are doing far better than a lot of other people would be in your situation. I spent the summer in France last year and had less severe problems but stressed out even more than you did. Everytime I went to the grocery store I had to ward off heart palpitations. Everything takes getting used to, and once you acclimate, you'll be able to look back on this and laugh. I'd, for one, would love to hear more about yoru experiences--don't worry about venting here, personally, I think it's good to hear what other people are going through. Besides, we all have those days when we just need to vent, and I think that your experience in Korea so far has given you that right. Everyone just needs to remember that such a huge shift in environment and living style is bound to stress others out. Just relax and pay attention to the nice people on the board, there are a few, I think.


Something similar to what I was thinking. Though compassion perhaps outweighs needless remarks, some fools like the latter. All right then, all is cool. Go to another brand new country with no mates and no language. Fun stuff. Wankers.
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