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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hire responsible people, based on reccomendations from friends.
Pay in Greenbacks. [$2200 per month]
House them individually.
Pay for the teachers escape/recharge trips to Ko Phan Gan on Full moon party.
Pay bonuses for X-mas. Pay all other normal severance etc. gain a good reputation among the teachers.
Teachers lounge. I believe it is a good morale booster to have a well equipped and comfortable teachers lounge.
Occasional paid dinners at Nashville and Reggae Pub.
10 kids per class with Korean teachers aid (Part timers from uni will work)
For adults there would be only film conversation classes. Split up the classes so each teacher would have an equal amount of kids and adult classes.
I've always dreamed about teaching film. Watch portions of a movie and discuss....argh! So many good movies to watch and talk about....
Most of all I would offer my employees peace of mind.
Always have a substitute ready to go so my people can have a sick day when they really need it. [This won't be advertised.] |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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I would just leave teachers alone and let them teach. If parents complain, I would try and deteremine the validity of the complaint. If it was just the standard, my kids haven't covered enough pages this week, then I would have someone explain to them that "faster" is not "better", especially when it comes to learning English.
I would have a discipline policy where if a student is disrupting the class, they get sent to the office and I would phone their parents on the spot.
No exceptions. No books? Phone the parents.
3 offenses and they would have to leave.
By the way, I've heard there are places like this in Korea. Not many, but they exist. The parents pay about double to send their kids to these places because they know their kids can't fool around.
I would make sure that their were ample teachers resources, especially enough copies of the textbook and tapes so that EVERY teacher could have a copy. I would make sure that tape players were good quality and functional, with enough volume to be heard in a large classroom.
And did I mention whiteboards? Every classroom must have a decent sized whiteboard. (4 X 4 feet) And a decent, steady supply of markers.
I would try and offer help and advice to teachers who are not doing well, not try and ridicule them into "doing better". Instead of trying to lay blame, I would have meetings where everyone is free to make suggestions on how we can do things better.
I would never, Never, NEVER, bloody< $%^&*ing NEVER, (did I mention NEVER?) allow parents to move students around to higher levels than they are ready for.
This is probably the most troublesome thing that parents can do to a good teacher.
I would have beginner levels for older students as well. Just because they are older doesn't mean they know more.
Anyway, that's what I would do.
I know it's just a dream, but if you're going to dream.......... 
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Location: The batcave.
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Homer, thanks for pointing that out to me. I know what the score is but the topic of the post was "what would you change if you owned a hagwon"...right?
That's all I pointed out. The things that I would change if I owned a hagwon.
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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If I were the King of my very own hagwon (which is never going to happen), I would raise the bar and raise the salaries. Hire only 'real' teachers. That hasn't been tried here yet. It might fill a niche market for the authentic . And it just might turn out to be another license to print money. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:41 am Post subject: |
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No worries Prairieboy...which "prairie" are you from man? |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Location: The batcave.
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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The prairie in Saskatchewan. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Holy cow! Another stubble jumper.
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Rand Al Thor
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Locked in an epic struggle
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:21 am Post subject: |
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It's me and the_beaver as partners. For the most part Beaver has nailed everything that we would do.
Yes we would work our teachers hard and have high expectations as well. But we would also be rewarding them beyond what you would get at any hogwan and even some universities.
Single housing of an adequate size with washer/dryer, a/c, TV.
Korean Language classes paid for by us and mandatory - the best teachers are ones who have or are currently studying language.
Vacation 2 weeks 4 times a year or we might do 1 week twice a year & 3 weeks twice a year.
You own classroom that you can decorate how you see fit with a your own computer in the classroom that you may use on your free time.
Our program would be very educationally sound with rules that are enforced. We would not pander to the mentality of I think I am level 4 so I am even if you can not say hello.
Beaver mentioned using published material, but that would be a temporary thing. Right now both of us are probably going to be involved in materials development at our respective universities so this experience will be invaluable when it comes to launching the hagwon.
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matthewwoodford

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Location, location, location.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 3:21 am Post subject: |
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I would milk it for all the money it's worth.  |
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Rand Al Thor
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Locked in an epic struggle
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 3:32 am Post subject: |
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matthewwoodford wrote: |
I would milk it for all the money it's worth.  |
And that's exactly what we intend to do... By treating your teachers right your investment will, in the long run, be worth more. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Rand,
What about quality education? Is that part of your investment plan or will you just do like the some of those less then reputable hagwon owners do?  |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Homer wrote: |
Rand,
What about quality education? Is that part of your investment plan or will you just do like the some of those less then reputable hagwon owners do?  |
Damn straight. That's the basis of the program. Lesson plans, outlines, and supplementary materials will all be based on a learner-centered, maximum practice philosophy. Fortunately Rand and I are similar in teaching philosophy and approach The possible third partner is the best teacher I've seen, although a little light on theoretical knowledge (which we hope will change).
The reason for semesters (instead of monthly enrolments) is because we know how many hours of practice/study it takes to learn English (thousands). With a ten-level system, we could bring an absolute beginner to a high-intermediate/low advanced level in 2 to 2 and half years. The average Korean is a false beginner, so we could bring such a person to an advanced level in that time (levels based on the ACTFL scale).
As well, when using a textbook like New Interchange we'll have all the supplementary materials available and teach the books the way they are meant to be taught. When we finish developing our own stuff we'll also have a wealth of secondary materials.
Rand is getting close to finishing his M.A. TESOL and reading language learning theory has been my hobby since I got to Korea in '95 so we know our shit AND we were lucky enough to teach in a program that requires effective teaching (although that program is going downhill, but that's another story).
Ongoing teacher training is also in the plan.
Of course the money is a motivation, but the truth is we feel that we can put out a high-quality program. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Beaver, that sounds interesting...if for real might be interested in joining up...  |
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Circus Monkey
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: In my coconut tree
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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SuperFly wrote: |
Hire responsible people, based on reccomendations from friends.
Pay in Greenbacks. [$2200 per month]
House them individually.
Pay for the teachers escape/recharge trips to Ko Phan Gan on Full moon party.
Pay bonuses for X-mas. Pay all other normal severance etc. gain a good reputation among the teachers.
Teachers lounge. I believe it is a good morale booster to have a well equipped and comfortable teachers lounge.
Occasional paid dinners at Nashville and Reggae Pub.
10 kids per class with Korean teachers aid (Part timers from uni will work)
For adults there would be only film conversation classes. Split up the classes so each teacher would have an equal amount of kids and adult classes.
I've always dreamed about teaching film. Watch portions of a movie and discuss....argh! So many good movies to watch and talk about....
Most of all I would offer my employees peace of mind.
Always have a substitute ready to go so my people can have a sick day when they really need it. [This won't be advertised.] |
Stop talking crazy talk dog!
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Scott in HK
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: now in Incheon..haven't changed my name yet
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 6:10 am Post subject: |
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beaver and rand....
i would pass along one more suggestion....if you plan on breaking down your different levels into skill areas....where someone might be a 10 in oral but a 4 in writing...and of course i suggest that you do....it would be a good idea to find teacher(s) who are skilled in teaching reading and writing...
i am doing my masters in language and literacy focusing on esl/efl (i am concentrating a lot of my work on emergent literac as i plan to open an immersion kindergarten but have done three papers on literacy in middle school students)...and the one thing that has been mentioned is how teachers tend to focus on the teaching of language and miss the teaching of reading and writing....teachers assume that learners will bring their knowledge over from their L1...but in many cases they don't or have never really been taught reading/writing strategies in their L1....this is especially true for metacognitive reading strategies...
this is true for learners of all ages...i had to do a project on reading strategies and used my wife as student...she was amazed at how her reading improved in just a few short weeks... |
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