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NoDolan

Joined: 29 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: Even more E-2 Changes effective July 17 for US citizens |
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I'm really getting discouraged here. I have 3 months on my contract and now I can't figure out how I'm going to get all of these documents within the next 90 days.
http://www.asktheconsul.org/E2ec07.htm |
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valkerie
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it is bad news for Americans. My mate had already got the online check thing done and got it stamped at embassy (renewal) then was told the rules just changed.
What's the (real or imagined) problem with online checks? |
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UberJRI

Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Location: Not where I want to be...yet
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Wow, this is getting insane. Does this mean that you can't even write to your state government and have them mail you a copy of your criminal check and then you mail it to your Secretary of State to get an apostile? 16-18 weeks for an FBI check is ridiculous. And they want you to go through that crap every year, eh? This is gonna deter a lot of people. |
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NoDolan

Joined: 29 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Um, it states that you may or may not have to appear in person if you go to a local agency such as your local or state. Depends on their policy.
According to the FBI website a CRC takes 4-5 weeks and authentication takes 5 business days by mail. The key is having someone in the states do the leg work for you, and getting them the finger prints asap. I see a lot of Fed ex expenditures in my future.
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losing_touch

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Location: Ulsan - I think!
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Indeed, it is getting worse by the minute. The FBI check would take forever, so be thankful that they are still accepting local and state checks. It has been costing me a small fortune to work it out here in Thailand. Thankfully, my state doesn't do online checks or I would be repeating the process right now! |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Neither of those authentication links work, and they're linked to pages about divorce which aren't there.
Very odd.
Nice. I was asking about all of this last week while in the USA. Suddenly, this all comes up now that I'm back in Korea. Guess I'd be mailing back my criminal records check to get that done if I were an E-2. |
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Big_G
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know what automatic disqualifers would be for an E-2 application? I got a C-2 visa last summer no problem. However I'm worried I will be denied because of an DUI/CDS charge from 2002. Can anyone clarify? I want to contact the Embassy here in DC, however I don't want to give more information than I need too.
Thanks,
Grant |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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That's totally up to the immigration agent at the time. No one can answer that for you. Despite Korean gov't officials saying they would only be concerned with criminal offenses, and despite there supposedly being some Korean guy at immigration who enforces this, I have read threads on here where people were denied visas due to innocuous things.
Were you living in the same local area in 2002? Some charges for traffic stuff don't show up in local CRC's of other counties. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm generally a supporter of living and working in Korea, but these regs and the persistent changes are deal breakers. If you have an ed. background and certification/experience, then apply to H.K., or at least Brunei (decent diving, they say).
If you are just looking to make some coin and you don't have a background in education, then suffer through the paperwork and deal with itl As has been stated before, the main reason to be here for many is the coin. |
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semi-fly

Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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So basically it's time to look elsewhere? From all the changes that have been implemented over the last year it might be easier to give them your first born ... as long it's a strong healthy boy that is. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Some guy was recently denied due to a "failure to appear" marked on his record. Apparently, he had appeared the following day for a trial instead or something like that, but it stayed noted on his record. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly, I think it boils down to where you can make the most money for the credentials you carry. 'Quality of life' issues also crop up.
So if you have a non-teaching degree and no experience, where can you make the most? Ok, and also have a beer. People will continue to jump through the hoops to get here because money is to be made, and it's possible without any training or experience. Bonus.
For those with education degrees, certification, and experience, there is no reason to be in Korea unless you work for the Department of Defense system or a private foreign school. Strike that. Only the DOD jobs make sense. |
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plynx

Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
Some guy was recently denied due to a "failure to appear" marked on his record. Apparently, he had appeared the following day for a trial instead or something like that, but it stayed noted on his record. |
"failure to appear" for what charge? that seems a little ridiculous to deny him if it wasn't for a serious charge, like a DUI or something along those lines. when i spoke with immigration and the various other officials i had to call to get the correct documents, they made it seem as if the only people denied were those with serious offenses related to drugs, violence and other random acts of aggression. can you elaborate on this, if you don't mind? did you know the guy? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
For those with education degrees, certification, and experience, there is no reason to be in Korea unless you work for the Department of Defense system or a private foreign school. |
What countries would you recommend?
Everyone else: It seems like what immigration will and won't accept is very much up to individual officers. I've had "unusable" documents accepted. A lot of the changes also affect first time applicants in their home countries. Being in Korea, they accept background checks obtained in Korea via the mail or internet and with no apostille. A simple notarization from the embassy will do. I HOPE this hasn't changed for people already teaching in Korea, immigration would be fools as they already relaxed the standards for teachers already here due to the amount of problems getting all the documents from overseas. |
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blonde researcher
Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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There are no CRC assessment rules happening
It seems is not what is on your CRC that is being assessed for DUI charges that appear on your CRC. You are also being assessed as a person Korea might, or might not want!.
If you have teaching experience and a diploma in education or English etc - your are in with a visa even with a minor DUI .
If you have a diploma in an unrelated field and no suitable teaching experience - you are out with a DUI on your record!
I have seen this happen recently for a couple of public school jobs.
Looks like it is not about what is showing on your CRC regarding the alcohol and minor offences, its the officers assesment of you which will make the difference, especially if you want to go to a middle or high school. |
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