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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Breaking Engagement Could Cost You $150,000 |
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Hall Co. jury awards jilted bride $150,000
Access North Georgia (July 23, 2008)
http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=211771&c=10
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A Hall County jury has awarded a woman $150,000 after she sued her former fiance for calling off their wedding.
RoseMary Shell said she left a high-paying job in Florida to be with her ex-fiance, Wayne Gibbs, and she said she has suffered emotionally since their breakup. "This has been the most difficult thing I've ever had to do and I think justice has been served," Shell said.
Gibbs testified that he paid $30,000 of Shell's debt while they were engaged, then canceled the wedding after finding out she had even more debt.
Juror Delitha Smith told Channel 2 Action News that she didn't agree with the outcome, but gave in to the other jurors. "He paid her a bundle, along with the engagement ring that was really worth a lot of money," Smith said. |
Jury Gives Woman Left at Altar $150K
She Moved to Be With Him, He Backed Out of Wedding by Leaving Note in Bathroom
By SCOTT MAYEROWITZ, ABC NEWS Business Unit (July 24, 2008)
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5442819 |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Its called promissary estoppel.
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1. The defendant has done or said something to induce an expectation
2. The plaintiff relied (reasonably) on the expectation...
3. ...and would suffer detriment if that expectation were false. |
Anyway, it seems the engagement ring is no longer enough. The purpose of the engagement ring is as a guaranty, a sort of deposit for relying on the engagement.
But it doesn't surprise me to see this was a jury trial. I doubt this kind of foolery would have happened in a bench trial. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| It doesn't surprise me that this happened so many people's sense of having a sense of character has gone down the toilet and too many people are relationship hopping. The woman was good enough for quite some time and then all of a sudden she wasn't. He was also having an affair. He doesn't sound like he was acting like a keeper. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| It doesn't surprise me that this happened so many people's sense of having a sense of character has gone down the toilet and too many people are relationship hopping. The woman was good enough for quite some time and then all of a sudden she wasn't. He was also having an affair. He doesn't sound like he was acting like a keeper. |
A friend of a friend just got dumped after five years after he adopted his wife's FIVE children.
Seems his estranged wife's ex was in prison all that time, and they got back together immediately upon his release.
As it stands now, he is responsible for child support for all those kids- - and possibly alimony. Five years is the cut off point in that state for alimony. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| grooms spent an average of W96 million while the brides put up around W33 million |
Marriage Costs Koreans an Arm and a Leg
Chosun Ilbo (February 23, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200602/200602230027.html
Marriage More Expensive for Man
Chosun Ilbo (March 27, 2001)
http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200011/200011230330.html
Wives Found Far Richer than their Spouses
Chosun Ilbo (March 21, 2001)
http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200102/200102150006.html
More Women Keep Secret Stash of Money
Chosun Ilbo (June 6, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200506/200506060001.html
Most Women Quit Work to Get Married
Chosun Ilbo (March 22, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200603/200603220029.html
Many Dads Unknowingly Raising Others' Kids
Increase in paternity testing reveals 1 in 25 men raising children not their own, study says
By Steven Reinberg, HealthDay (August 11, 2005)
http://www.healthday.com/view.cfm?id=527353
Women taking lead in filing for divorce
JoongAng Daily July 01, 2005
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200506/30/200506302309010009900090409041.html
Many marriages today are 'til debt do us part
By Kathy Chu, USA TODAY (April 28, 2006)
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/basics/2006-04-27-couples-cash-series_x.htm
Successful women begrudge husbands who earn less, study claims
by BETH HALE, The Daily Mail (November 29, 2006)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=419488&in_page_id=1879
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Does success make women less marriageable to men? In some cases, the answer is yes: Most women like to 'marry up,' and that is harder to do if a woman is on the top floor of her profession....
The NFI study, written by University of Texas at Austin professor Norval Glenn, found that marrying between the ages of 23 and 27 might be optimal for couples. Mr. Glenn deduced this by asking married couples of various ages whether they were "very happy." Those who married between 23 and 27 were significantly more likely to answer yes. The group least likely to say their marriages were "very happy" were those who waited until age 28 or older to marry, the NFI study found.... |
Lonely at the top
By Cheryl Wetzstein, THE WASHINGTON TIMES (December 13, 2005)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/culture/20051212-103116-1924r.htm
Why men earn more than women
Marty Nemko
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/career/20050307a1.asp
The 76-cent myth
Do women make less than men? The wage-gap ratio isn't the best gauge for pay discrimination, and overemphasizing it can undermine an important issue.
By Jeanne Sahadi, CNNMoney.com. (February 21, 2006)
http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/21/commentary/everyday/sahadi/index.htm
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| Teenage boys still spend more money on dates than their girlfriends, the creeping progress of gender equality in other fields notwithstanding, a poll shows. The Chosun Ilbo conducted a survey of 170,000 debit card users between 18 and 20 on how much and where they use them. Unlike credit cards, debit cards prevent recklessly lavish spending by people in their teens and 20s who live on allowances by parents since they only work when there are funds in the account. The most striking finding was that male respondents said they used the cards for their girlfriends while the female users spend the money on themselves. |
Teenage Boys Spend Money on Girls -- and so Do Girls
Chosun Ilbo (November 13, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611130007.html |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Teenage boys still spend more money on dates than their girlfriends, the creeping progress of gender equality in other fields notwithstanding, a poll shows. The Chosun Ilbo conducted a survey of 170,000 debit card users between 18 and 20 on how much and where they use them. Unlike credit cards, debit cards prevent recklessly lavish spending by people in their teens and 20s who live on allowances by parents since they only work when there are funds in the account. The most striking finding was that male respondents said they used the cards for their girlfriends while the female users spend the money on themselves. |
Teenage Boys Spend Money on Girls -- and so Do Girls
Chosun Ilbo (November 13, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611130007.html |
Definitely the guy's fault. I learned back in grade 7 that buying a girl something (then it was candy) doesn't change their opinion on you one whit. Anyone who still hasn't learned that lesson deserves to be suckered out of their money. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Teenage boys still spend more money on dates than their girlfriends, the creeping progress of gender equality in other fields notwithstanding, a poll shows. The Chosun Ilbo conducted a survey of 170,000 debit card users between 18 and 20 on how much and where they use them. Unlike credit cards, debit cards prevent recklessly lavish spending by people in their teens and 20s who live on allowances by parents since they only work when there are funds in the account. The most striking finding was that male respondents said they used the cards for their girlfriends while the female users spend the money on themselves. |
Teenage Boys Spend Money on Girls -- and so Do Girls
Chosun Ilbo (November 13, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611130007.html |
Definitely the guy's fault. I learned back in grade 7 that buying a girl something (then it was candy) doesn't change their opinion on you one whit. Anyone who still hasn't learned that lesson deserves to be suckered out of their money. |
 How true. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
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| Teenage boys still spend more money on dates than their girlfriends, the creeping progress of gender equality in other fields notwithstanding, a poll shows. The Chosun Ilbo conducted a survey of 170,000 debit card users between 18 and 20 on how much and where they use them. Unlike credit cards, debit cards prevent recklessly lavish spending by people in their teens and 20s who live on allowances by parents since they only work when there are funds in the account. The most striking finding was that male respondents said they used the cards for their girlfriends while the female users spend the money on themselves. |
Teenage Boys Spend Money on Girls -- and so Do Girls
Chosun Ilbo (November 13, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611130007.html |
Definitely the guy's fault. I learned back in grade 7 that buying a girl something (then it was candy) doesn't change their opinion on you one whit. Anyone who still hasn't learned that lesson deserves to be suckered out of their money. |
How true. |
Well, if you never buy a girl anything, she'll certainly consider you to be cheap.
Same as if I'm with a woman and she never tries to cook for me. If she can't be bothered to try and win me over that way, not interested. |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
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But if you didn't like her, or wasn't romantically inclined, then the best meal in Paradise wouldn't change things.
But yes, never buying a girl anything may tip her from "he's sensible" to he's a "mean bastard."
Just don't overdo it. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| "You Go, Girl!!" *fingersnap* |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| OneWayTraffic wrote: |
But if you didn't like her, or wasn't romantically inclined, then the best meal in Paradise wouldn't change things.
But yes, never buying a girl anything may tip her from "he's sensible" to he's a "mean bastard."
Just don't overdo it. |
I think Mithridates meant initially, and doing it to win her over. |
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