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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: You might want to remind Koreans... Reply with quote

That July 27 is the 55th anniversary of the armistace to end the Korean war, and of the sacrifices made by foreigners for this nation.

I don't know the figures for the other UN forces, but here is Canada's:

26,000 soldiers fought in the war.

over 500 died.

I would especially remind children and younger Koreans of this, as they probably aren't even aware of the sacrifices made by way-gookin for their little patch of land.

Just my 2 cents.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

United States:

480,000 strength

36,516 combat deaths

South Korea:

590,911 strength

58,127 combat deaths

Total UN strength: 941,356�1,139,518


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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
United States:

480,000 strength

36,516 combat deaths

South Korea:

590,911 strength

58,127 combat deaths


other UN nations' stats anyone? thanks for those bluelake.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just pulled them off of Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
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Lekker



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you know that Canada was the first country to supply weapons to Korea after the Japanese left? After the U.S. bombed Japan, guerillas found loads of Japanese weapons in caves in Jeju which they took advantage of. Korea had been begging the U.S. to supply them with means of defense, as well as include them in the line of defense against Russia but the U.S. was like nah, no use for us, wouldn't make sense, so Canada was like yo here you are. I'll have to look it up again in this book I have all about the war. It's pretty interesting. I'll lend it to you if you want.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:
Did you know that Canada was the first country to supply weapons to Korea after the Japanese left? After the U.S. bombed Japan, guerillas found loads of Japanese weapons in caves in Jeju which they took advantage of. Korea had been begging the U.S. to supply them with means of defense, as well as include them in the line of defense against Russia but the U.S. was like nah, no use for us, wouldn't make sense, so Canada was like yo here you are. I'll have to look it up again in this book I have all about the war. It's pretty interesting. I'll lend it to you if you want.


It's probably because armories on the mainland, such as in Incheon, were emptied by US servicemen (my father included). When my dad's ship came to Incheon (Sep 22, 1945), Arisaka rifles and bayonets were handed out to all servicemen who wanted them. My dad took one Arisaka and two bayonets; he still has the rifle and one of the bayonets--not sure what happened to the other. His rifle is unusual as it has most of the mum intact on the receiver (they were ordered ground off and most only have a grind mark where they once were).
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Passions



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:
Did you know that Canada was the first country to supply weapons to Korea after the Japanese left? After the U.S. bombed Japan, guerillas found loads of Japanese weapons in caves in Jeju which they took advantage of. Korea had been begging the U.S. to supply them with means of defense, as well as include them in the line of defense against Russia but the U.S. was like nah, no use for us, wouldn't make sense, so Canada was like yo here you are. I'll have to look it up again in this book I have all about the war. It's pretty interesting. I'll lend it to you if you want.


Canada has weapons?
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oceansdepth



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: You might want to remind Koreans... Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
That July 27 is the 55th anniversary of the armistace to end the Korean war, and of the sacrifices made by foreigners for this nation.

I don't know the figures for the other UN forces, but here is Canada's:

26,000 soldiers fought in the war.

over 500 died.

I would especially remind children and younger Koreans of this, as they probably aren't even aware of the sacrifices made by way-gookin for their little patch of land.

Just my 2 cents.

i knew very well of the facts and stats of canada and america growing up in korea. but not so much of other un nations.
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Jeaves



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:
Korea had been begging the U.S. to supply them with means of defense, as well as include them in the line of defense against Russia but the U.S. was like nah, no use for us


Actually, the US did not supply SK with decent/heavy weaponry because they were afraid that Rhee would attack the North. Rhee had ambitions to reunify the peninsula, by force if necessary, and the US didn't exactly want to jump right back into another war with WWII still fresh in the nation's collective mind. Of course this in turn allowed the Soviet supplied Norks to waltz right in and kick the crap out of the ROKs all the way down to Busan.

Interesting that Truman turned down Chiang Kai-shek's offer to send 33,000 Chinese Nationalist troops to Korea a few days after the NKs attacked. He probably was worried that they might have had an ulterior motive... and with the immediate intervention of Taiwan in support of SK, Mainland China may not have waited until UN forces reached the Yalu River to attack. Had those 200,000+ Chinese soldiers been down fighting near Busan and supporting in Inchon during the landing, the UN forces may have never been able to drive them out of the southern half of the peninsula. But hey, that's all just revisionist speculation Wink
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Chinese are kicking themselves wondering why they got involved in Korea instead of trying to take Taiwan back from Chiang and his anti-commies. NK has been nothing but a headache for China.
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CeleryMan



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Choco-pies and bu-dae-jigae for all!
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Jeaves



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CeleryMan wrote:
Choco-pies and bu-dae-jigae for all!


Mmmmmm 부대찌개 sounds hella good right now.... But I'd probably have to drive to San Francisco or Portland to find some.... !(>_<)!

::sigh::
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
When my dad's ship came to Incheon (Sep 22, 1945), Arisaka rifles and bayonets were handed out to all servicemen who wanted them.

Wasn't that also when, or around when, Ferris Miller came to Korea? It's unlikely your father would have known him, but I'll wager you met him before he died.
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rebel_1812



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: You might want to remind Koreans... Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
That July 27 is the 55th anniversary of the armistace to end the Korean war, and of the sacrifices made by foreigners for this nation.

I don't know the figures for the other UN forces, but here is Canada's:

26,000 soldiers fought in the war.

over 500 died.

I would especially remind children and younger Koreans of this, as they probably aren't even aware of the sacrifices made by way-gookin for their little patch of land.

Just my 2 cents.


let's say you do tell a korean about it. How do you think they will react? I doubt it will change the zenophobia one ounce.
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Lekker



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
Lekker wrote:
Did you know that Canada was the first country to supply weapons to Korea after the Japanese left? After the U.S. bombed Japan, guerillas found loads of Japanese weapons in caves in Jeju which they took advantage of. Korea had been begging the U.S. to supply them with means of defense, as well as include them in the line of defense against Russia but the U.S. was like nah, no use for us, wouldn't make sense, so Canada was like yo here you are. I'll have to look it up again in this book I have all about the war. It's pretty interesting. I'll lend it to you if you want.


It's probably because armories on the mainland, such as in Incheon, were emptied by US servicemen (my father included). When my dad's ship came to Incheon (Sep 22, 1945), Arisaka rifles and bayonets were handed out to all servicemen who wanted them. My dad took one Arisaka and two bayonets; he still has the rifle and one of the bayonets--not sure what happened to the other. His rifle is unusual as it has most of the mum intact on the receiver (they were ordered ground off and most only have a grind mark where they once were).


My grandfather came to Incheon around the same time via ship. Maybe your father and my grandfather knew each other? Maybe? Maybe not.
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