| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
|
 Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: |
 |
|
That map is quite interesting. Nothing in africa? Why not?
Why is there no American military in Mexico despite it bordering the US?
Why be down under when little of interest is in the southern hemisphere as it has much less land mass than the north? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
Listen, we all hate George Bush, he has the lowest approval rating of any president in the history of approval ratings. As an American, there's a lot of things about our country that bug me.
But facile American bashing is pathetic. It's really unoriginal. Grow up and start critically thinking. Do you honestly think the American military bases in Korea constitute imperialism?
We're running a trade deficit currently with Korea, which means simply they sell more goods to us than we do to them. So they're the one's profiting.
We're wasting money protecting this country (payroll taxes hit the working man hard) while they sell us products because of lax labor and environmental standards. And you're calling us imperialists?
I'm not anti-free trade. But saying the country that allowed samsung and LG to flower is an imperialist? How, exactly did the US benefit from Korean economic expansion, save maybe cheaper samsung tvs. Which btw destroyed domestic production of said tvs.
Your avatar says it all.
And for people who say, if the US pulls out, the NK would invade. The NKs can't feed their own people. Their leaders *know* they're a failed state. They also know that SK is eventually going to rescue them just as W. Germany did E. Germany. It'd be like invading your sugar daddy. No way that's gonna happen. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
| monkinwonderland wrote: |
A) What does this have to do with Korea?
B) Do you have any idea what you're talking about? |
A.) America has a very obvious military presence in Korea.
B.) If you're not going to contribute to the thread go elsewhere. Thanks! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
|
|
| travelingfool wrote: |
| A question for my fellow Americans out there in K-Land and beyond: Have you ever been accosted, verbally or otherwise, by a Canadian, Euro, etc, just for being American? I was attacked by a Swede just for being American. I tell people over and over that I hate my country's foreign policy, loathe GW, congress, etc. I tell them I am just a guy trying to make a living and mind my own business. I vote and make calls and send emails to politicians, but it doesn't do any good. What do the America haters expect us to do? Start a revolution? To avoid such a revolution, the US has made agreements with Canada and Mexico to send in troops to quell any such insurrection. There goes that idea! |
I've had bad luck with Kiwis and Canadians. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Lyrt wrote: |
| Should be in red only the countries occupied through force of arms by the US army. The other countries with American bases are free to ask them to leave. If they don�t, that�s probably because they are persuaded of the merits of a military alliance with the Empire �. |
The map simply shows the scope and span of America's military reach. At its zenith, the British often favored building naval and army bases in foreign countries rather than actually occupying and changing the government from the inside out. This still doesn't change the fact that the British Empire was definitely imperialistic. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: Re: The Great American Empire |
|
|
| wylies99 wrote: |
| Tristan wrote: |
http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/US-military-bases-2001-03.jpg
A picture showing the scope and span of the great American Empire. Click the picture for a higher resolution.
America's version of the colony is the military base. If we totaled up the land area, of all the countries that we have established military bases in, the extent of America's global reach would be larger than the British Empire, at its zenith, in 1897. The British Empire was the largest known empire in the world's recorded history.
What do you think of the image above? Do you consider the United States of America a modern day incarnation of an empire? Discuss. |
Feel free to leave the "empire of the USA" any time you choose and live in North Korea, Iran, or any other dictatorship. 
Didn't think you would, hypocrite. |
I get hassled enough by natives from other Western countries. It's pretty bad to see a fellow American bashing me on here when my only intention was to start a lively discussion on whether or not YOU would consider America an empire. I never implied it was negative and I'm a proud American patriot. So shut your pie hole. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tristan
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
| wylies99 wrote: |
| jkelly80 wrote: |
| wylies99 wrote: |
| jkelly80 wrote: |
Colonialism was implemented to ensure captive supply for raw material, and captive demand for manufactured goods. That's not quite what America has going at the moment.
And it's not an either/or. One can critical of American foreign policy and not go live in North Korea. How childish. |
If you are working in South Korea, you are here only because of the US military keeps this nation free. 
Yeah, go live in North Korea if being in South Korea is so bad because Americans keep it free. |
How is that so? Once the US pulls out NK will invade? Do you believe that? One can be critical of US foreign policy and still think that we should have bases in other countries. It's. Not. That. Simple. |
If the US pulls out, you think the North won't invade? C'mon. C'MON. |
There are plenty of Americans who know the truth about this issue.
Read the Myth of the North Korean Army:
http://www.g2mil.com/korea.htm
Those who are well read on the subject know that the North would, essentially, be committing suicide if it tried to attack the South (with or without an American presence). There are a great number of military men who are definitely in favor of withdrawing our troops from the peninsula as well.
Regardless, I digress. I don't know where I stand on that issue at the moment - I just wanted to point out that South Korea COULD take care of North Korea by itself if it wanted. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Can you explain why Hainan (Chinese Territory) is coloured red and why Taiwan has been expunged from the map? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
squinchboy
Joined: 16 Dec 2006
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tristan,
put your other avatar back on. I like how you got all tigered up. 
(inside joke) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="Tristan"]
Those who are well read on the subject know that the North would, essentially, be committing suicide if it tried to attack the South (with or without an American presence). quote]
Logic doesnt seem to be the underpinning of any decision made my the NK govt or military leaders. this is the country that allows its own people to starve rather than back down from its insane propoganda campsign. remember, this is the country that even its neighbor China disavows on a regular basis.
To a country that is more intent on having a nuclear weapons program, even if they have to fake it, than feeding its own people, I dont put anything past them. Even if an invasion attempt was the last throes of a dieing government, I can still see it coming to fruition.
To quote the X-Files, "trust no one....." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Frankly Mr Shankly wrote: |
| Can you explain why Hainan (Chinese Territory) is coloured red and why Taiwan has been expunged from the map? |
Beat me to it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| visitorq wrote: |
| That's right, America rules. Like you'd ever forget it. |
Not likely...... I'm a blue-stater who think the country had a chance to fix things in 2004 and dump Bush-fer-brains, and didnt, but I still love my country.....
any foreign meathead who thinks it's open season on the starw-n'-stripes on account one of its' citizens walks into the room is in for a time of it....
I had a Limey roomate from Hell, who kept going on about some sort of Belgian chocolate in school, so I walked over to my map of the US and pointed at Pennsylvania, cut him off and said, "Chocolate begins and ends, right here, in Hershey, P.A!"
now true, it's the same mass-produced fast food choco you get anywhere else, but America was the one who gave the world those wise-crackin' M&M's!
The look of disguist and moral outrage on the Limey's face was well worth it. I got the line, "Ohhh... that is SOOO painfully American!" and in the back of my head I thought, "you're Goddamn right it is..." It was either that or listen to one more of his endless rants for an hour. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="wylies99"]
| jkelly80 wrote: |
Colonialism was implemented to ensure captive supply for raw material, and captive demand for manufactured goods. That's not quite what America has going at the moment.
And it's not an either/or. One can critical of American foreign policy and not go live in North Korea. How childish. |
If you are working in South Korea, you are here only because of the US military keeps this nation free. :wink:
Yeah, go live in North Korea if being in South Korea is so bad because Americans keep it free. :wink:[/quote
Mr. Wylies99 is just joking with us here in order to get our collective goats. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="A2Steve"]
| Tristan wrote: |
Those who are well read on the subject know that the North would, essentially, be committing suicide if it tried to attack the South (with or without an American presence). quote]
Logic doesnt seem to be the underpinning of any decision made my the NK govt or military leaders. this is the country that allows its own people to starve rather than back down from its insane propoganda campsign. remember, this is the country that even its neighbor China disavows on a regular basis.
To a country that is more intent on having a nuclear weapons program, even if they have to fake it, than feeding its own people, I dont put anything past them. Even if an invasion attempt was the last throes of a dieing government, I can still see it coming to fruition.
To quote the X-Files, "trust no one....." |
Word enough to support in theory. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
