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Tristan
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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 Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: Why the Animosity From Fellow Expats? |
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Why?
I posted this blog entry which I believe is a pretty fair assessment of what happened at the time:
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http://www.hipmoderncluedin.com/2008/07/session-73-wheres-outrage.html
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And received a comment from a Canadian expat stating:
Korea is actually a different country than the U.S. I'll tell you what, I'll start judging everything your country does. Iraq? Love what you've done with the place.
I replied:
Are you suggesting that it's a bad thing for expatriates to make critical observations about a country they've lived in for years? There's a difference between cathartic complainers and social critics - people who have paid their dues abroad. To quote someone who puts it much better than me:
"These people HAVE paid their dues; they're not speaking in ignorance, or jumping to conclusions. They've done their due diligence, read up, qualified their statements, and started pointing out areas where Korea is not what it wishes to be. These people play an important role in a healthy society."
Or you could just make a nasty statement marginalizing the sacrifices made by Americans and Iraqis alike to drive your point home.
Come on guys. Shouldn't we be on the same page here? Or is it that just because I'm an American, every time I divulge my opinion people feel the need to crap their political correctness all over me? |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| People are complicated. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Why the Animosity From Fellow Expats? |
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| Tristan wrote: |
| "These people HAVE paid their dues; they're not speaking in ignorance, or jumping to conclusions. They've done their due diligence, read up, qualified their statements, and started pointing out areas where Korea is not what it wishes to be. These people play an important role in a healthy society." |
Just a quick comment. The last sentence can be true only if they are fluent in the local language or at least willing to fully interact with the locals rather than just being armchair critics in their closed communities. If all they do is checking some local news in English and discussing with other expats (or ridiculing Koreans as their favorite pastime), let's thoroughly erase that last line. |
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Stevie_B
Joined: 14 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Why the Animosity From Fellow Expats? |
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| Tristan wrote: |
Why?
I posted this blog entry which I believe is a pretty fair assessment of what happened at the time:
[url]
http://www.hipmoderncluedin.com/2008/07/session-73-wheres-outrage.html
[/url]
And received a comment from a Canadian expat stating:
Korea is actually a different country than the U.S. I'll tell you what, I'll start judging everything your country does. Iraq? Love what you've done with the place.
I replied:
Are you suggesting that it's a bad thing for expatriates to make critical observations about a country they've lived in for years? There's a difference between cathartic complainers and social critics - people who have paid their dues abroad. To quote someone who puts it much better than me:
"These people HAVE paid their dues; they're not speaking in ignorance, or jumping to conclusions. They've done their due diligence, read up, qualified their statements, and started pointing out areas where Korea is not what it wishes to be. These people play an important role in a healthy society."
Or you could just make a nasty statement marginalizing the sacrifices made by Americans and Iraqis alike to drive your point home.
Come on guys. Shouldn't we be on the same page here? Or is it that just because I'm an American, every time I divulge my opinion people feel the need to crap their political correctness all over me? |
I'd tell the Canadian c*nt - quite plainly - to go and f*** a handful of his own sh**. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Take a look at the Which Foreigners are Least Friendly thread for the answer to your question. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry, but naming your blog "Hip. Modern. Clued in." is asking for ridicule. |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's because your handle is Tristan. That's only cool in James Herriot's books I'm afraid. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| tfunk wrote: |
| People are complicated. |
People are idiots. |
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Tristan
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Stormy wrote: |
| I think it's because your handle is Tristan. That's only cool in James Herriot's books I'm afraid. |
Wow! That's really witty of you "stormy." In fact I recommend that you go on over to http://www.babynames.com/ so you can put your two cents in on a few other names. I'm sure some expecting mothers would really appreciate your contributions. |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Tristan wrote: |
Wow! That's really witty of you "stormy." |
Why thankyou "Tristan".....I'll follow up your suggestion when I have the time. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
| Sorry, but naming your blog "Hip. Modern. Clued in." is asking for ridicule... |
....from juvenile-minded persons (not that I view your online persona in this way at all).
Seriously, Samd, I do not look upon your Dave's character in this way whatsoever. Really, I don't. So, you gotta believe me on this one, eh.
Sincerely,
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| Stormy wrote: |
| I think it's because your handle is Tristan. That's only cool in James Herriot's books I'm afraid. |
It is a name that is sort of commonplace in Irish families, no? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Guy's an idiot...Iraq was a solid call, Iran will be too. They're just jealous that they come from a two bit country that doesn't mean squat in the real politic of today. Laugh it off.  |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Roch wrote: |
| Stormy wrote: |
| I think it's because your handle is Tristan. That's only cool in James Herriot's books I'm afraid. |
It is a name that is sort of commonplace in Irish families, no? |
not to my knowledge. Its more of a rugger playing, fag beating(public school fag..not the other kind), upper class twit kind of a name. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Why the Animosity From Fellow Expats? |
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| Tristan wrote: |
| Come on guys. Shouldn't we be on the same page here? ? |
Why? |
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