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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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 Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: How do I pull a runner? |
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I recently gave my letter of resignation to my boss, and things are really weird. I'm sure he hates me and won't pay me again. Also, I'm ready to take a vacation and visit m family. I should have one anyway, but he said I can only take my vacation at the end of the year.
These are among my many complaints. So anyway, what exactly should I do before I leave next week?
Also, I'm worried that if I run he will make up some lie to say that I stole something or try his best to prevent me from returning to Korea. Have you ever heard any stories about the boss burning a former employer? |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: Re: How do I pull a runner? |
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I don't think anybody can stop you unless he accuses you of a crime and you are ordered to court.
Did you tell him you were leaving?
My previous boss sent her husband to the airport. I don't know the details, but the girl that was leaving started screaming and some U.S. marines stepped in to help at the airport. Fill in the blanks with gory details if you like. My boss said she only wanted the phone back as it wasn't hers.
My boss was really nice and went out of her way to help me for the whole year. At my birthday and Christmas she brought me shopping and said I could pick out any clothes I wanted (maybe that was her subtle way of saying I wasn't properly dressed!).
Anyway, good luck with whatever you do and I wouldn't sweat it. |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| I'm also wondering how long it takes for immigration to cancel my visa, so I can start the process again. |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
| I'm also wondering how long it takes for immigration to cancel my visa, so I can start the process again. |
I kinda laughed when I saw the title of this thread, it's kind of a "no-brainier" except that's it's really not anymore because of the visa regulation changes.
So your question in light of the E2 regs is quite valid, and probably will be getting asked a little more frequently on this board as more people realize you can't just fly to Japan and back anymore to solve the problem.
Don't quote me on this (meaning do your own research) BUT..................
I'm always amazed that this FINE POINT seems to have slipped by the minds of many E2 teachers regarding the new visa laws.
You must complete (or wait out it out in some other country) 9 or 10 months of your current E2 before being eligible for another.....unless, you have a letter of release?
Again, someone like ttompatz could give you the exact details of this new statute, but it's basically going to be a deal killer for many in the future.
You can't run as easily as before.
If you get a bad job, you're pretty much stuck with it, or can get on a plane and go home.
Also, if you run, there's the possibility that you'll be flagged by immigration if your boss files a formal complaint against you, again making it difficult to get back in.
You might tell them there's been a death in the family, and that you MUST go (Koreans always put family first, and have a real tough time arguing this excuse).
With any luck, you'll be on a plane home with no black marks against you.
Hopefully someone else with more specific knowledge of this will jump in here though.
I myself want to know if there are any "workarounds" for this new 9-10 month period of completion on an E2. |
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Joe Boxer
Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Just go. No one will stop you. And just come back when you want. |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Step 1. Wait until midnight
Step 2. Run
Sorry, couldn't resist... All the best! |
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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: Could this be? |
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I believe one has always had to either:
1. get a release from his current employer before applying for another visa
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2. wait out the 9 months before applying for another visa
This helped/helps protect schools from predatory teachers feigning interest in outfits just for free rides here. Without some kind of check in place, a school would be taking a hell of a risk by giving a new hire a plane ticket to Korea. Said new employee could simply come to Korea on a naive boss's dime, reject his commitment, and go immediately elsewhere. Surely there has always been some sort of red light in place to help allay some of the risk of being burned on air fare. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Could this be? |
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| Tobias wrote: |
I believe one has always had to either:
1. get a release from his current employer before applying for another visa
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2. wait out the 9 months before applying for another visa
This helped/helps protect schools from predatory teachers feigning interest in outfits just for free rides here. Without some kind of check in place, a school would be taking a hell of a risk by giving a new hire a plane ticket to Korea. Said new employee could simply come to Korea on a naive boss's dime, reject his commitment, and go immediately elsewhere. Surely there has always been some sort of red light in place to help allay some of the risk of being burned on air fare. |
It should be six months instead of nine months, then. |
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Trinitarian
Joined: 15 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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When I left early the cute girl at the airport asked when I planned on returning to Korea. I replied "Never". When the cute girl at the airport in Manila asked how long I was planning on staying in the Philippines I replied "Forever".
Just have your Alien Immigration card and there should be no problem. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Doing the runner will be no problem. Arranging the paperwork so that you can get another job in Korea looks like it might be very, very tricky given your situation. |
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bejarano-korea
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Not true, I left (or did a runner) in March and came back in June, I left a hagwon to work for GEPIK and they may have more sway, but I didn't have to wait 12 months or the end of my current visa. |
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Zaria32
Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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As you are leaving the country, and going through Korean immigiration or whatever they call the Korean exit officials, say "I'm all through, and I'm not coming back. Cancel my visa, would you?"
They will cancel. You probably won't have any trouble getting another
visa. That's what I did... |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: How do I pull a runner? |
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| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
I recently gave my letter of resignation to my boss, and things are really weird. I'm sure he hates me and won't pay me again. Also, I'm ready to take a vacation and visit m family. I should have one anyway, but he said I can only take my vacation at the end of the year.
These are among my many complaints. So anyway, what exactly should I do before I leave next week?
Also, I'm worried that if I run he will make up some lie to say that I stole something or try his best to prevent me from returning to Korea. Have you ever heard any stories about the boss burning a former employer? |
He really can't do much to block your re-entry to Korea. You'll be allowed to work here, again, but the old boss man will badmouth you to schools. IF YOU WANT TO WORK IN KOREA, you'd probably be in better shape if you stay, fight it out at Labor, get a letter of release, and get a public school job.
Filing at Labor gives you credibility with potential schools because you can explain your situation to them and tell them that you are pursuing legal options. This also shows your NEXT school that you are willing to go to Labor. This makes it much more likely that your second school will not give you trouble.
You are in much better shape, legally, than you probably realize, as long as you have your documents protected and you can handle a stressful situation for a couple months.
BTW, don't live in fear. Yell at the boss, if he comes down hard on you. Just don't leave, if he fires you, unless you give sit to you in writing. Then, go to the Immigration office, ASAP and BE FREE from that hogwan he11. |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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then there's the someone in the family is deathly ill and I have to go NOW - tell him you are coming back but you certainly don't want to cause him any difficulty in getting a new teacher and would he be so kind as to also provide a letter of release since you (1) gave him notice and (2) will return, you just don't know when and of course you still LOVE K and want to work here again
whatever you do decide, best of luck 
*edit* an employer cannot hold you to your contract if there is a family emergency - if you do use this - put it in writing so if he still doesn't cough up the LOR share the letter w/immi in the future and anyone (school) else who runs into difficulty getting you a new E2. |
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Sadebugo1
Joined: 11 May 2003
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I did a runner back in '01 after only two months because the university I worked for did not honor major provisions in the contract nor intended to do so. My biggest concern was being stopped at immigration because of my early departure. But, I didn't have any problems. I think it was because they were more concerned about getting my perspective on the new airport. I raved about it claiming it was the best airport in the world. This seemed to have eased my passing.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
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