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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
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 Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Man stabbed, then decapitated, on Greyhound Bus |
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Man stabbed, beheaded on Manitoba bus
'I don't think the guy knew him at all . . . the poor guy, he didn't see it coming'
Gabrielle Giroday and Ian Hitchen, Winnipeg Free Press and Brandon Sun
Published: Thursday, July 31, 2008
BRANDON, Man. - Thirty-six passengers of a Greyhound bus travelling from Edmonton to Winnipeg Wednesday night watched in horror as a fellow passenger reportedly stabbed another man sleeping next to him, eventually decapitating him and waving the man's severed head.
"He didn't do anything to provoke the guy. The guy just took a knife out and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off," said Garnet Caton, 36, a passenger.
The bus made an emergency stop, and passengers fled in terror onto the Trans-Canada Highway while the bus's driver and a driver of a nearby truck shut the crazed man inside the bus with the victim. Passengers say they stood outside the bus and watched through the window, horrified, as the man disfigured the victim's body.
A Manitoba RCMP police officer reportedly negotiates with a suspect, seen sitting at the front of the bus. The standoff was continuing early Thursday morning, according to the Winnipeg Free Press, and reports later indicated a man was taken into custody.
A Manitoba RCMP police officer reportedly negotiates with a suspect, seen sitting at the front of the bus. The standoff was continuing early Thursday morning, according to the Winnipeg Free Press, and reports later indicated a man was taken into custody.
By 10:30 p.m., the eastbound bus was stopped on the highway about 10 kilometres east of Portage la Prairie, Man., surrounded by RCMP cruisers. An RCMP spokesman confirmed on scene a major incident had occurred, but would not elaborate.
Caton and others said once they escaped the bus, they prevented the attacker from getting off the bus by threatening him with makeshift weapons - a hammer and a metal bar.
"We were telling him, 'Stay put, stay put, stay there, don't try to come out.' He tried to get the bus working and the bus driver disabled the bus somehow in the back, I'm not sure how he did it, and at that point, I think the police showed up," he said, adding officers rushed them away.
"Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock . . . everybody was running, screaming off the bus."
Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall, 200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton.
Caton said he was struck by how calm the man was. He just walked up to the front of the bus and dropped the head, Caton said.
Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was Aboriginal in appearance, and was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be a young man around 20 years of age.
"When we saw the head, we knew he was dead," he said. "I don't think the guy knew him at all. I think he was really crazy ... the poor guy, he didn't see it coming."
Two yellow school buses were brought in to the closed-off stretch of highway for passengers to sit in while the standoff between officers and the man inside the bus proceeded for hours.
The passengers were later taken to Brandon to be interviewed by police and to stay overnight at a hotel there.
Crisis counsellors were also at the hotel to provide support to the passengers, and counsellors could be seen chatting with them outside the hotel as groups went out to local stores for snacks or to smoke cigarettes.
One small boy, who was with an adult man and woman, was given a plush teddy bear by a crisis health worker.
Another young man from Nova Scotia sat outside the Brandon hotel smoking around 3 a.m. Visibly shaken, he said RCMP had taken 36 witnesses in for questioning into a detachment approximately 100 kilometres east. He said later: "I felt bad that all the young people and old people had to see that."
The man, who did not want his name used, said the victim of the stabbing had been sleeping before the attack.
Other passengers said that the two men were sitting in the rear of the bus and the stabbing victim was listening to music through his headphones. The men were both sitting in the back of the bus, and the attack appeared to be unprovoked.
"The first thing I heard was something like a terrible type (of) yowl and that was from the guy who got stabbed," said an elderly woman on the bus, from Winnipeg.
The woman and her adult daughter said they were three or four rows in front of the suspect when the attack began.
"(My daughter said) 'Oh my God' and everybody else started screaming," she said. "They had terror in their eyes."
Passengers said there was a rush of people toward the front of the bus to get off.
A truck driver who saw the ruckus then jumped to the rescue as he and the driver tried to disable the vehicle and keep the man from exiting, as law enforcement officers rushed to the scene, the standoff began. An RCMP spokesman could not be reached to confirm the precise time the man was taken into custody or further details.
Two other passengers on the bus, a 22-year-old man and 21-year-old woman, from France, said they were heading to Winnipeg after visiting the woman's father in Whitehorse. The 22-year-old man said in French that he saw a man holding a long knife repeatedly stab another passenger. He and his girlfriend said they were shocked by the attack, and the isolation in the middle of the prairies when it occurred.
"There was nowhere to go," she said.
Manitoba RCMP Const. Dave Higgs confirmed Wednesday that there was a major incident on the bus - which was en route to Winnipeg from Edmonton - but he would not provide details. He would not give any further details.
Abby Wambaugh, a Greyhound spokeswoman in Dallas, Tex., confirmed this morning that there was an incident, but would not describe what exactly happened.
"There was an incident on board one of our buses, but I don't want to compromise the investigation," she told Canwest News Service. "Specific details would need to be confirmed by the police and we're co-operating with them."
With files from Canwest News Service
� Winnipeg Free Press and Brandon Sun 2008 |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| I took a Greyhound through the BC interior the last time I was in Canada. There was no outright violence, but it was the sort of atmosphere where it seemed like things were always just on the verge of getting nasty. At one point, the driver confiscated a knife from someone, who made a big protest about "hey man, this is legal for me to have!!" During the rest stops, a few of the guys were pestering me for smokes in the parking lot, in what could be decribed as "aggressive panhandler" mode. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| That's some bad ass shyte. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| When I worked for trucking companies, I would occasionally need to go to Greyhound stations to pick up or drop off drivers. Both Greyhound stations I went to were right beside of strip clubs (Magic City in Atlanta and Christie's Cabaret in Nashville). There were always so many crackheads and other degenerates there and I assumed the strip clubs were the magnets attracting them until I went to Christie's Cabaret to watch a classmate from school strip after I found out she worked there. The clientele at Christie's seemed the be mostly professionals who made me feel underdressed (no pun intended), so the crackheads must actually be attracted to Greyhound stations like moths to a flame. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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What a grotesque thing to have happened. Ick.
I can't help but think that if it started happening here, some ESL hero would have jumped in and saved the victim. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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In an ironic twist, blaseblasphemener used to work for Greyhound AND my hometown is Brandon, MB, close to the beheading. Also, I've been known to "lose my head" on occassion, but not in the literal sense.  |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Last summer my family took the Greyhound across Canada from TBay to Vancouver. The majority of passangers were white trash and natives. The natives were fine and caused no problem, and were generally very quiet and leary of everyone else as they often are.
The white trash, on the other hand, were inconsiderately loud in their bitching and swearing. My husband even had to report to the bus driver that the young, fat man was giving his girl head in the back of the bus while everyone else was sleeping. (Like two pigs in a blanket ..sorry, you had to see them) To the bus driver's credit, he took it very seriously and I think he would have kicked them off if anyone else had seen it. As it was, they only got a warning and were pissy the rest of the trip.
In general, Greyhound travel is not family friendly and we will never do it again. The buses alternate from dirty to dirtier. My son got something from those seats and his face swelled up and made him look unrecognizable for 2 days. Scary as hell for a parent.
I remember when we used to take the Greyhound from TBay to T.O. when I was young. Back then the Greyhound was for families and working men. Now, the buses are falling apart and the bathrooms are rarely in good condition. Who would want to travel that way unless they had no choice. If Korea sent it's old luxery buses to Canada it would be a major improvement. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I took the train from Toronto to NYC and then Greyhound back. Wasn't such a bad crowd but then it depends a lot on destination. If you're trying to get across country and you have to resort to the bus, you're probably trash. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Countrygirl wrote: |
I remember when we used to take the Greyhound from TBay to T.O. when I was young. Back then the Greyhound was for families and working men. Now, the buses are falling apart and the bathrooms are rarely in good condition. Who would want to travel that way unless they had no choice. If Korea sent it's old luxery buses to Canada it would be a major improvement. |
Yup, took it as a kid too... and it was pretty decent.
This story is just so horrible... it disgusts me.
Odd thing was, wasn't there a thread going in the main forum about Korea vs 'back home', and someone suggested that the Greyhound was comparable to Korean buses. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Countrygirl wrote: |
I remember when we used to take the Greyhound from TBay to T.O. when I was young. Back then the Greyhound was for families and working men. Now, the buses are falling apart and the bathrooms are rarely in good condition. Who would want to travel that way unless they had no choice. If Korea sent it's old luxery buses to Canada it would be a major improvement. |
The only time I've been on a long distance bus in Canada was in the early 80's with my mom. It wasn't so bad and is as you described, for families and working men. All were well behaved. I guess things has really changed in the almost 30 years. Hopefully, plane travel will never descend into a magnet for trash. Probably hard to, since you have to pass security.
Also, someone mentioned natives usually behaving well. Totally agree, remember in high school people would say watch out when around natives. But in reality it's the white trash that you have to be careful around. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Man stabbed, then decapitated, on Greyhound Bus |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| ...the man was Aboriginal in appearance |
Another scalp for the Sioux. Payback for 400 years of colonisation. Maybe the bus was driving over sacred land? |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Man stabbed, then decapitated, on Greyhound Bus |
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| nautilus wrote: |
| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| ...the man was Aboriginal in appearance |
Another scalp for the Sioux. Payback for 400 years of colonisation. Maybe the bus was driving over sacred land? |
Read the article, the victim was aboriginal in apperance. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Man stabbed, then decapitated, on Greyhound Bus |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
Read the article, the victim was aboriginal in apperance. |
They're still killing Indians these days? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Man stabbed, then decapitated, on Greyhound Bus |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| nautilus wrote: |
| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| ...the man was Aboriginal in appearance |
Another scalp for the Sioux. Payback for 400 years of colonisation. Maybe the bus was driving over sacred land? |
Read the article, the victim was aboriginal in apperance. |
There is no indication that this crime was racial. The man was crazed. There is no room for jokes on this one. This was very disgusting. As far natives, there is prejudice against them in some parts of Canada. That's definitely true. |
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Stormy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Very disturbing story. |
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