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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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 Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: Citizens entering US can have laptops seized |
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http://devicedaily.com/misc/report-laptops-can-be-seized-by-federal-agents-at-border.html
Supposedly this is in the name of terrorism, but imagine the powers that be
will prosecute anything they can. I've got about 100 movies on my laptop hardrive and several hundred songs which I only downloaded in Korea. I probably should delete them to be on the safe side, but I really don't feel like iit. You think there's any chance they'd prosecute on the off chance my laptop is one of the seized ones? |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Not another reminding thread of how the US is a police state. dam. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, I know we all know the US is no longer even close to being the land of the free anymore. It's actually worse than my first post indicated, because they are also confiscating ipods, digital cameras, cellphones, basically anything electric. One businesswoman has been waiting a year for her laptop to be returned. |
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tanklor1
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Citizens entering US can have laptops seized |
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| kingplaya4 wrote: |
http://devicedaily.com/misc/report-laptops-can-be-seized-by-federal-agents-at-border.html
Supposedly this is in the name of terrorism, but imagine the powers that be
will prosecute anything they can. I've got about 100 movies on my laptop hardrive and several hundred songs which I only downloaded in Korea. I probably should delete them to be on the safe side, but I really don't feel like iit. You think there's any chance they'd prosecute on the off chance my laptop is one of the seized ones? |
Get a load of blank dvds, put your movies on them. Mark them all "Photos" Send a master key of what's on what disc to yourself via e-mail. Using the same e-mail send yourself the entire collection of songs that you have. May take a couple of days depending on how many you have delete everythng else. Or you can just say F' it. I highly doubt that anyone cares about that "COPY" of Cloverfield you have on your harddrive. |
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globalgirlk
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Location: Livingston, La
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Isn't that breaking something on the Bill of Rights? Bullsh*t! |
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Kiarell
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| kingplaya4 wrote: |
| Sorry, I know we all know the US is no longer even close to being the land of the free anymore. It's actually worse than my first post indicated, because they are also confiscating ipods, digital cameras, cellphones, basically anything electric. One businesswoman has been waiting a year for her laptop to be returned. |
Ask women, African-Americans, or Amerindians if it's ever been "land of the free". Propagandist slogans don't hide the past. Anyone remember COINTELPRO? This is just more of the same, but now with more technology available (Check out the preparations for the DNC Denver protests) and a even more powerful govt. At least in the Cold War the Western govts held themselves up to some level of practicing the "freedom" they preached to the Soviet camp so often. The other difference between then and now: a very disorganized and just barely recovering progressive movement.
The US government is perhaps one of the worst things to come about in human history. Even the Constitution itself was drafted in response to internal rebellion. Even the Constitution is not so grand, the Bill of Rights had to be fought for; otherwise we'd have the exact document that James Madison himself promised would protect the opulent minority from the poor majority, having all the form of democracy with none of the substance, strong central govt and army, etc.
Despite the self-censorship, the USA did enjoy some degree of freedom from direct, state-sponsored repression for the past few decades, but "good-bye". People in the USA live under conditions just a smidgen different from the Koreans who have to deal with mass arrests and state-burglary whenever labor or activism makes itself heard.
But most of us should have no direct worries. From what I've seen most of the posters here are reactionaries. And few (read:zero) are aspiring independent journalists. |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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I buy MP3s on the internet... and also download them for free off torrents. There is no real way to verify what you bought and what was a freebee. It is legal to buy a CD and then convert them to MP3s and put them on your computer. Just say you bought them as CDs and have them stored in Korea. As for the movies, say you own the DVDs in Korea, and copied them onto your hard drive for personal use. I don't think they can touch you for anything.  |
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Kiarell
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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this has nothing to do with copyright laws, it has to do with confiscating politically-related stuff like they did with William Hinton decades ago. It has to do with putting people like Naomi Wolf on a "list".
As far as bootlegging/downloading stuff...you really only have to worry about being caught actively SHARING the stuff. Even then you're most likely to get caught via a Direct Connect hub or through some type of Gnutella (limewire et al) service. Using bit torrent (either way) or merely having the files is pretty safe. The govt will not waste time or resources searching your laptop for Intellectual Property infractions....you're more likely to get caught by the respective distribution companies (Warner Bros, etc) actually spying on you and whatever file-sharing network/hub you use. That's how someone I knew got caught. the FBI had nothing to do with it. It was the actual company bullying some poor girl into paying an exorbitant settlement fee. |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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If you flew in on a 9 hour flight I am sure they wouldnt take your laptop. Why wait to get off the plane to blow up something? It probably applies more at the Canadian or Mexican border crossings. Just dont have any anti bush materials on it. Otherwise you get free ride to Guantanamo.  |
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browneyedgirl
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Just set your computer background with something patriotic...problem solved. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| globalgirlk wrote: |
| Isn't that breaking something on the Bill of Rights? Bullsh*t! |
 Yeah, the "Bill of Rights", written roughly 200 years ago, addressed the pressing issue of buying hundreds of pirated DVDs and getting them past INS. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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You do realize that legally, any copywrited songs you have on your computer are not actually yours? Even if paid for?
So are you angry about the US becoming a police state, or just pissed that you now have to worry about carting your stash of illegal music, movies, and whatnot? I'd guess the former.
Most for-profit music which makes any money is licensed by companies out of the US. Not all, but the lion's share. It's starting to irk me when people argue that the USA shouldn't be allowed to protect its own monetary interests -- be it from corn, music, or what have you -- but it's no problem when other countries do it.
If you want to blame someone for becoming a police state, I invite you to take a good, hard look at what fun the Moslem religion has bestowed upon us in the past decade. |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Kiarell wrote: |
The US government is perhaps one of the worst things to come about in human history. |
Boy, you must be so sad on days coming up, like Korean Independence Day, which are linked to things such as Japan saying "Uncle" in WWII. Who were you rooting for in the great war? Nazi Germany maybe?
What's really ironic about this kind of drivel is the fact it is being posted on the internet, not just an American invention, but an invention of the US Dept. of Defense's DARPA.
If America really wanted to be the next Rome, it would just be gutting the hell out of countries like Iraq, and making lists for who's next.
Where you from again?  |
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browneyedgirl
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| A2Steve wrote: |
| Kiarell wrote: |
The US government is perhaps one of the worst things to come about in human history. |
Who were you rooting for in the great war? Nazi Germany maybe? |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Kiarell wrote: |
But most of us should have no direct worries. From what I've seen most of the posters here are reactionaries. And few (read:zero) are aspiring independent journalists. |
obviously you haven't seen much.
there are quite a few indy j's here - they come in and out and yes, some even post on this forum |
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