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enns



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: The arrogance of uneducated liberals Reply with quote

Peter Schweizer: The arrogance of uneducated liberals
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/08/01/peter-schweizer-the-arrogance-of-uneducated-liberals.aspx

Bush the smarter candidate?

How exactly did the media know that Gore was so smart and Bush so dumb? In fact, the record did not indicate any of this was true. It was often alleged, probably with reason, that Bush only got into Yale because his father had gone there and his grandfather had been a Connecticut senator. Yet Gore, with high school Bs and Cs (his only As were in art), got into Harvard in part because (like other politicians� sons, including a raft of Kennedys) his father was a famous senator. At Harvard, Gore�s grades did not improve. In his sophomore year he earned a D, a C-minus, two Cs, two C-pluses and one B-minus. He was in the bottom fifth of his class his first two years in school. Later he flunked out of divinity school (failing five of his eight classes) and dropped out of Vanderbilt University Law School. Gore was once asked (after having served in the U.S. Senate for several years) to name his favourite president. �President Knox,� he replied.
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As it happened, George W. Bush had taken the same test just a few years later. Columnist Steve Sailer determined that Bush�s score put him in the 95th percentile, giving him an IQ in the 120s. Kerry�s score was slightly lower, putting him in the 91st percentile.
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After Bush won re-election, it became clear why Kerry hadn�t wanted to release his college records. The Boston Globe discovered that Bush actually had higher grades at Yale and also had higher SAT scores. (Bush�s scores were also higher than those of Senator Bill Bradley, another liberal often described as learned and brilliant.)
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Professor Bruce Fleming, a self-professed liberal, explains this liberal attitude perfectly. �All of us are ignorant of many things. It�s just that the liberal here thinks he knows what the conservative is ignorant of.�

This sublime confidence in their own superiority leads to a closed-minded insistence that liberals know what is right. Scholars at Stanford, the University of Illinois and Williams conducted four studies on the subject of �asymmetric insight.� Basically, this is the notion that some people claim to know more than others. Surveys were conducted with hundreds of students. Among their findings: Liberals are much more likely to believe that their knowledge of conservatives and their arguments surpasses that of conservatives themselves. The results were similar when it came to the abortion issue. Abortion rights advocates claimed to have greater knowledge and insight than those who are pro-life.
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a terrible time to pick to publish that book.

I'm also glad that classic book titles aren't that long. Frankenstein: The Doctor That Got Too Obsessed With His Own Project, Made A Monster, Found It To Be Too Ugly, Abandoned It To Grow Up On Its Own, A Monster Surprisingly Good At The French Language By The Way, Who Eventually Proved That The Real Monster Lay Within The Soul Of His Creator.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He may talk dumb and he may make stupid choices but at least he got better grades than the other guys. So there! <<insert icon with fingers in ears and tongue sticking out>>

Welcome to the 2nd Grade.
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blade



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
He may talk dumb and he may make stupid choices but at least he got better grades than the other guys. So there! <<insert icon with fingers in ears and tongue sticking out>>

Welcome to the 2nd Grade.
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agentX



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Book publishers will publish any piece of crap that fits their political agenda. Just look at whomever publishes Michael Savage's political books.

But let's look at the substance, or lack thereof, of this author's statement.
If Bush has an IQ in the 120s, then why does he make so many verbal gaffs and idiotic mistakes? If Gore were president, Sept 11th probably wouldn't have happened and the War on Iraq would never have happened.

If you're talking about grades, then consider this: Louis Pasteur got mediocre grades in Chemistry. And look what became of him.

Since we're on the subject of IQ, let's look at the source of Bush's IQ score, Steve Sailer. I guess the writer's not familiar with some of Sailer's work.
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/93252/cnn_uses_racial_extremist_as_source_for_its_%27black_in_america%27_series/
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What the CNN article fails to note is that in addition to writing columns and movie reviews for The American Conservative, Sailer is the founder of the Human Biodiversity Institute, a neo-eugenics online discussion forum where right-wing journalists and race scientists have promoted selective breeding of the human species. He also writes frequently for the anti-immigrant hate site Vdare.com, named for the first white child born in America, and runs a website, isteve.com.

Sailer's website is rife with primitive stereotypes. On it, Sailer mocks professional golfer Annika Sorenstam for having well-developed muscles and claims that Asian men have a hard time finding dates because they look "less masculine" than other men.

Last January, on the hate site vdare.com, Sailer labeled Obama a "wigger."

"He's a remarkably exotic variety of the faux African-American, but a wigger nonetheless," Sailer wrote. "Even genetically, Obama, whose East African descent is apparent in his unusual features, has only a distant relationship to the West Africans who are the ancestors of almost all African-Americans." To illustrate his point, Sailer used photos of Obama side-by-side with Jesse Jackson and the rapper Ludacris, "both of whom have conventional West African features."

Assessing the tragic aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in September 2005, Sailer wrote, "The plain fact is that they [black Americans] tend to possess poorer native judgment than members of better-educated groups. Thus they need stricter moral guidance from society."


Quoting hate-mongers and bigots is par for the course for conservatives.

But, why would liberals, as stated in the tests, claim that their arguments are better than those of conservatives?
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Study shows Fox News viewers misinformed about war, Iraq, WMD
The Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland conducted a thorough study of public knowledge and attitudes about current events and the war on terrorism. Researchers found that the public�s mistaken impressions of three facets of U.S. foreign policy � discovery of alleged WMD in Iraq, alleged Iraqi involvement in 9/11, and international support for a U.S. invasion of Iraq � helped fuel support for the war.

While the PIPA study concluded that most Americans (over 60%) held at least one of these mistaken impressions, the researchers also concluded that Americans� opinions were shaped in large part by which news outlet they relied upon to receive their information.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
Exhibit A in an long line of evidence showing how bankrupt the conservative thought process is. Exhibit B would be Terri Schiavo.

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This sublime confidence in their own superiority leads to a closed-minded insistence that liberals know what is right.

Where was the author when this book was published: Kids Are Americans Too, by Bill O'Reilly, a book so crappy that Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz wrote: "This book is so riddled with errors, inconsistencies, bad advice and hypocrisy that ... it should be placed in the adults-only section of the bookstore. Or better yet, with the joke books."

This guy is trying to be the next Jonas Goldberg (Liberal Fascism).
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BreakfastInBed



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentX wrote:

If Gore were president, Sept 11th probably wouldn't have happened


What leads you to believe this?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BreakfastInBed wrote:
agentX wrote:

If Gore were president, Sept 11th probably wouldn't have happened


What leads you to believe this?


yes, I'm also intrigued to hear the logic behind this statement.
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Bigfeet



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This tells you something about ivy league schools. Getting in is more about money and connections than it is about academics. I think that they give scholarships to smart poor kids to boost the collective IQ of the schools.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentX wrote:
If Gore were president, Sept 11th probably wouldn't have happened and the War on Iraq would never have happened.

Not sure about 9/11, but we most definitely would have gone to war with Iraq. In his speeches during the year before the election, he seemed to be outhawking Bush.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sept. 11th would have happened, but it is not at all certain what would have happened in response. I for one do not think we'd be a couple of trillion more dollars in debt. There is no reason to believe that Gore would have chosen a war of choice. If Henry Ford hadn't come up with the assembly line when he did, it is 99% certain someone else would have very soon. That is not the same as going to war when you are not attacked. Voting does matter and the winner is important.
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contrarian



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Bush should have stuck to his guns and gone on a genuine crusade after 9/11.
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Quote:
Voting does matter and the winner is important.


Iowa is critical and Oregon is chopped liver. Now write that down and repeat.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard detractors to the Bush admin turn around and say, "Gore was smarter." I've never heard that one. Sounds like a crock of bull. Something like that Kyrsowsky fella who wrote that book on property investment, who the gullible believed so took out 100% mortgages to buy in Ca and Az.
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spliff



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

contrarian wrote:
I think Bush should have stuck to his guns and gone on a genuine crusade after 9/11.


Aye.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Bush should have stuck to his guns and gone on a genuine crusade after 9/11.

'Ahh, Hello?' Hundreds of thousands of Muslim peasants are dead already.
Regardless of the rightfulness of the motives, that has been the result.

Shoot, I could be moderated out of existence for saying that.
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