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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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 Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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Sorry, loose_ends, I simply don't live in a world where I think there's a massive international government plot behind every instance of man's inhumanity to man.
If you do, sucks. |
Why does it always have to be black or white? |
It doesn't. Conspiracy nuts like to make it black and white. |
I like it when you show your true colors  |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Right. My point is a scientist being investigated by the FBI has many reasons to kill himself, not just because he was guilty. |
After reading this article, I'm beginning to agree with you.
First, they hounded him and his family incessantly.
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In the current case, Ivins complained privately that FBI agents had offered his son, Andy, $2.5 million, plus "the sports car of his choice" late last year if he would turn over evidence implicating his father in the anthrax attacks, according to a former U.S. scientist who described himself as a friend of Ivins.
Ivins also said the FBI confronted Ivins' daughter, Amanda, with photographs of victims of the anthrax attacks and told her, "This is what your father did," according to the scientist, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because their conversation was confidential.
The scientist said Ivins was angered by the FBI's alleged actions, which he said included following Ivins' family on shopping trips. |
Second, I see that Hatfill's career was ruined.
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Before the FBI focused on Ivins, its sights were set on Hatfill, whose career as a bioscientist was ruined after then-Attorney General John Ashcroft named him a "person of interest" in the probe.
Hatfill sued the agency, which recently agreed to pay Hatfill nearly $6 million to settle the lawsuit.
Complaints that the FBI behaved too aggressively conflict with its straight-laced, crime-fighting image of starched agents hunting terrorists.
During its focus on Hatfill, the FBI conducted what became known as "bumper lock surveillance," in which investigators trailed Hatfill so closely that he accused agents of running over his foot with their surveillance vehicle.
FBI agents showed up once to videotape Hatfill in a hotel hallway in Tyson's Corner, Va., when Hatfill was meeting with a prospective employer, according to FBI depositions filed in Hatfill's lawsuit against the government. He didn't get the job. |
As for myself, defending my innocence would be paramount. But I could see how the stress of the situation drove him to suicide, guilty or not. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/anthrax_investigation_glance;_ylt=ApRymB36u20At27vC5cHCUlg.3QA
Some interesting questions. |
I really can't believe you believe this junk.
I'll tell you why in a bit.
Stay tuned. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| loose_ends wrote: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/anthrax_investigation_glance;_ylt=ApRymB36u20At27vC5cHCUlg.3QA
Some interesting questions. |
I really can't believe you believe this junk.
I'll tell you why in a bit.
Stay tuned. |
Oh I can't wait for your scientific insight. I'm still waiting for that peer reviewed paper from that Utah scientist. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/anthrax_investigation_glance;_ylt=ApRymB36u20At27vC5cHCUlg.3QA
Some interesting questions. |
I really can't believe you believe this junk.
I'll tell you why in a bit.
Stay tuned. |
Oh I can't wait for your scientific insight. I'm still waiting for that peer reviewed paper from that Utah scientist. |
Scientific insight? Was your link scientific?
And check up the 9-11thread. New peer-reviewed article. Check it out. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| loose_ends wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| loose_ends wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/anthrax_investigation_glance;_ylt=ApRymB36u20At27vC5cHCUlg.3QA
Some interesting questions. |
I really can't believe you believe this junk.
I'll tell you why in a bit.
Stay tuned. |
Oh I can't wait for your scientific insight. I'm still waiting for that peer reviewed paper from that Utah scientist. |
Scientific insight? Was your link scientific?
And check up the 9-11thread. New peer-reviewed article. Check it out. |
Comments on the peer reviewed article in the 911 thread.
Regarding the link I posted, what part do you dispute? I'll be happy to chase down the science for you. |
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