| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Gollywog
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Debussy's brain
|
 Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
 |
|
Wow! Great link, UT videam.
I especially like this paragraph:
| Quote: |
The more the regime evinced its incompetence by relying on foreigners, the more it needed to restrict the people's contact with them. By the 1960s the party line had taken a turn that reminded a Soviet diplomat of Nazi Germany, as citizens who married Europeans were banished to the provinces for "crimes against the Korean race." A diplomatic report translated in the CWIHP bulletin shows how the masses finally got into the spirit of things. In March of 1965 the Cuban ambassador was driving his family and some Cuban doctors around Pyongyang when they stopped to take pictures. Hundreds of adults and children quickly swarmed the diplomatic limousine, pounding it with their fists, tearing the flag off, and ordering the occupants to get out. Their rage and insults, directed mainly at the ambassador "as a black man," abated only when a security force arrived to beat back the mob with rifle butts. (Not for nothing did Eldridge Cleaver say that the North Korean police made him miss the Oakland police.)
"The level of training of the masses is extremely low," a party official later admitted to the ambassador. "They cannot differentiate between friends and foes." In other words, everything was going as planned. The regime went on to blur the distinction further by excising all mention of outside assistance from the history books, even as it continued to squeeze billions of dollars from its cash-strapped allies.
|
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200409/myers
You know, from reading this article, it seems North Koreans sounds an awful lot like South Korea.
But what would Japan be like if Korea had been in charge of ruling the country after the end of WWII? Would Korea have been generous and forgiving, and helped get Japan on its feet again? Or would Korea have drawn and quartered every Japanese they could get their hands on? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Gollywog wrote: |
| But what would Japan be like if Korea had been in charge of ruling the country after the end of WWII? Would Korea have been generous and forgiving, and helped get Japan on its feet again? Or would Korea have drawn and quartered every Japanese they could get their hands on? |
As mentioned earlier, pointless questions because it could never have happened. Give up on this latest attempt of yours to stir up anti-Korean sentiment. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
i4NI
Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
| santafly wrote: |
| how about: what would Korea look like if Japan had won WWII, at least held on to NE Asia. |
I was wondering the same thing, woulda been a much more interesting topic. I wonder if it would have been fully culturally assimilated by now. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
You are correct that Cumings book was really a cheap leftist political tract, but he did have some handle on the historical facts of the era. He did indeed interpret most events through what he saw as his own mistreatment buy the US lead Korean government pf the south.
I have both of his books which alternately amuse me and tick me off. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
Then the Japanese would be a bunch of short, dour people with over-crowded cities that wore sandals, smoked a lot and sat on the floor.
Wait.
They are. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
You are correct that Cumings book was really a cheap leftist political tract, but he did have some handle on the historical facts of the era. He did indeed interpret most events through what he saw as his own mistreatment buy the US lead Korean government pf the south.
I have both of his books which alternately amuse me and tick me off. |
Except the part about the Korean resistance and Kim Il Sung right?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| This is a pointless question. Its like asking, "What if the Polish or French defeated the Nazi's in WW2." |
Not quite. France HAD defeated Germany in 1918. Where is the Korean Western Front? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
Then the Japanese would be a bunch of short, dour people with over-crowded cities that wore sandals, smoked a lot and sat on the floor.
Wait.
They are. |
Inconsistent tenses. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Oh, yeah? Well then maybe you'd like me to come over to your house, sit on the floor and smoke a lot. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
| Oh, yeah? Well then maybe you'd like me to come over to your house, sit on the floor and smoke a lot. |
That's funny, I do that with Koreans and charge them 45k/hour for the privelege, all the while ranting in barely coherent pidgin English. They love it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Perhaps we have more in common than we think. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
