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Teach in Hwaseong-Namyung, Live in Not-Hwaseong: Reasonable?
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Teach in Hwaseong-Namyung, Live in Not-Hwaseong: Reasonable? Reply with quote

I've been reading on these forums and Wikipedia about the scary serial killer and other crime issues in Hwaseong, but am considering an offer in Namyung-gu.

I'm coming with my (also Caucasian) girlfriend, and will be doubly concerned about safety. It would be great if you folks could suggest if Namyung-gu is or isn't sketch-central in itself, and how it relates to the rest of the Hwaseong experience.

If it's actually an area to avoid, would you recommend commuting daily by bus to Namyang-gu from, say, Suwon or somewhere else nearby? What's the trip like to Seoul on the weekends?

[Squid] on this forum mentioned that Namyung is "the sticks", but coming from south Jeollanam-do this mightn't pose a problem for us. [Otherside] on this forum has also provided a great amount of info to another Hwaseong-related post, and I'd appreciate your additional comments here as well.

We've been having so much trouble finding individual public schools (high school for me, younger for her) in good areas in Gyeonggi-do, so Namyang might be a good opportunity. We've been avoiding GEPIK, but September is fast approaching.

Should we just drop Namyung-gu and find positions elsewhere?

I'd appreciate your specific answers and general Hwasung/Namyang-related advice.

Thanks in advance!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad news for you is that ALL public schools in Gyeonggi province are under the jurisdiction of the Gyeonggi provincial office of education (GPOE/GEPIK).

The serial killer in Hwaseong is old news.

Commuting would depend on where the school is. Hwaseong is a very large area that goes from Suwon out to the coast at jebu-do.

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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namyang is about 45mins by bus from Suwon station.
That's really your call whether you want to spend 90mins each day travelling.

I wouldn't be too worried about the serial killer, he hasn't struck since the early 90s...

Realistically I wouldn't worry about the crime here.

For what its worth, I work just before namyang and I choose to commute from Suwon station.
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Jeweltone



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul, S. Korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hwaseong itself is not too bad, but AVOID the Byeongjeom community (near the subway station). Although it is the county seat, there are some scary characters around there. I have personally been groped and verbally harassed by random drunks in Byeongjeom...right in front of the police station (twice!) . The natives are also, shall we say, less-than-friendly (and I have never had a problem making friends with the locals in any country I have visited). Treat Hwaseong like you would any major city (even though it is not); do not let your lady walk alone after dark ,and be aware of the people around you.

The area further away from the station is pretty decent, but a bit hard to access except via foot. There are some chain stores and a small movie theatre however - not a thriving metropolis, but decent. There are some nice apartments in the section near city hall as well.
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traxxe



Joined: 21 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Gok Ban Jeong Dong which is in Suwon. Close to Byeongjeom but closer to Seryu Station.

Korea is far safer than any country in the west. Drunk Koreans are usually the main source of frustration and they can be irritating.

Most women get groped at some point or another but that is pretty much part of the perverse culture of Asia. If you are a half-attractive white girl then you can probably expect at least one or two uncomfortable moments.

The serial killer only killed Koreans wearing red clothes in the rice paddies. He hasn't struck in around fifteen years. You don't have much to worry about. The chances of getting murdered here are far less than western societies. Hit by a car? Another story.

It's safe to walk around in public places at night. Many women do it in the country with little fear.

On my motorcycle it takes me about 20 minutes to get to work in one of the many Hwaseong areas. Sometimes a little less, sometimes more.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, they never caught the serial killer?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeweltone wrote:
Hwaseong itself is not too bad, but AVOID the Byeongjeom community (near the subway station). Although it is the county seat, there are some scary characters around there. I have personally been groped and verbally harassed by random drunks in Byeongjeom...right in front of the police station (twice!) . The natives are also, shall we say, less-than-friendly (and I have never had a problem making friends with the locals in any country I have visited). Treat Hwaseong like you would any major city (even though it is not); do not let your lady walk alone after dark ,and be aware of the people around you.

The area further away from the station is pretty decent, but a bit hard to access except via foot. There are some chain stores and a small movie theatre however - not a thriving metropolis, but decent. There are some nice apartments in the section near city hall as well.


The entire Seoul subway line (almost all stations) seems to attract these kind of L-O-S-E-R-S.
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Jeweltone



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is only near the station that I have had trouble; I was never harassed when I lived in Seoul, btw. I had to walk through the red light district/boshintang restaurant row of Byeongjeom, and then under an unlit traffic bridge (aka the public urinal/groping central) to get home...at the time, I was the only white female in town, so it could get a bit hairy at times. I am a pretty-average looking blonde (albeit a bit busty) so maybe that was the "attraction."

The reason Korea is safer is because people tend to walk in GROUPS. In teh major metro areas, people are on the street 24/7. Not so in the countryside. Parts of Hwaseong are quite remote, and it is not a good idea to be alone at night in such circumstances...in any country.

As for serial killers, they never caught him, but everyone knows who it is...or so I've been told (by an English speaking local). Something about the statute of limitations running out. There was another Hwaseong disappearance in December 2006; a middle-aged female office worker (whom I knew by sight, as it turns out) vanished right outside an ATM machine. There were three other apparently related similar incidents in some of the other outlying communities.

Just be careful and take note of who is around you, even in a "safe" country.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jongo- Sam Ga has large groups (mobs?) of drunken adjoshis running amok all of the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jongno_3-ga_Station
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