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mises
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 Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: Westboro Church to protest funeral of greyhound victim |
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WINNIPEG -- Residents rallied Thursday to protect the family of a young man murdered on a Greyhound bus last week from a posse of radical religious protesters planning to portray Tim McLean's death as God's wrath.
Earlier this week, the Westboro Baptist Church - an organization branded as a hate group and infamous for protesting the funerals of slain U.S. soldiers - announced they would picket Mr. McLean's funeral to let Canadians know that his decapitation was God's response to Canadian policies enabling abortion, homosexuality and adultery.
But Shirley Phelps-Roper, daughter of church's founder, Fred Phelps, said a small group of protesters was stopped at the Canada-U.S. border on Thursday afternoon.
"They won't let us in, but we have a group that will cross in another spot," she said. "They'll have to strip search everyone who crosses that border or they won't know who we are. They'll have to see the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) tattoo on our butts."
The resistance to the planned funeral protest started on Facebook yesterday morning when Jim Cotton, a resident of Winnipeg Beach, launched a page asking city residents to help protect Mr. McLean's funeral.
"We want to protect the family so they don't come out of the church service and see people shouting obscenities," said Mr. Cotton. "I've never met the McLean family. I've just been moved by the whole story."
Mr. Cotton was outraged and asked Winnipeg Facebookers to circle around the seven picketers tomorrow and pray for Mr. McLean's family.
By mid-afternoon Thursday, Mr. Cotton's page had over 100 friends. Rodney Taylor, an Ottawa resident, found the page and pitched in.
Mr. Taylor phoned the Prime Minister's Office, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day's office and border services, asking them to keep the Westboro group out of the country. He also created his own Facebook page urging other offended Canadians to follow his lead.
"These people are callous, vicious and shouldn't be let into our country," he said. "We have freedom of speech, but they are inciting hate."
Mr. Taylor's plan worked. Winnipeg NDP MP Pat Martin said his office was flooded with phone calls yesterday from angry Winnipeggers.
"These people [from Westboro] are almost as crazy as the murderer," he said. "If they are here to disrupt the social order, that constitutes grounds to deny them entry. There is no redeeming virtue in the message they are bringing."
According to Mr. Martin, Mr. Day's office sent an alert to border patrol to "look out" for people with signs and pamphlets that fit the hateful messages that the church promotes and to keep them out of the country.
"In the opinion of his office, coming up here with the message they're articulating constitutes hate speech," said Mr. Martin.
Members of the Kansas-based fundamentalist sect were already planning to picket in Canada prior to last week's bus slaying. The group was scheduled to protest in Toronto Thursday night at the opening of playwright Alistair Newton's "The Pastor Phelps Project: a fundamentalist cabaret", which satirizes their leader's fervent anti-gay stance.
Members have also been planning to picket outside a performance of "The Laramie Project" - a play based on the real life murders of two homosexuals in the United States - in Red Deer, Alta., Friday night. Residents of Red Deer have been planning their own counter-protest.
In 1999, the Canadian government said it was powerless to prevent Mr. Phelps from entering the country when he was planning a protest in Ottawa over a Supreme Court ruling extending rights to gays and lesbians.
At that time, the government said the minister could only make exceptions at the border to grant people entry who might otherwise be denied, not deny people entry who would normally be admitted.
Mr. Phelps, however, was a no-show at the protest because he feared for his safety after a pro-gay rights group planned a counter-protest.
The Winnipeg Police Service said they were not planning to block the funeral protest if the group successfully crossed the border, but they were prepared to be on hand if necessary. |
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=707624
Outrageous. I sincerely hope they get what they're asking for.
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mises
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PETA ad compares Greyhound bus attack to slaughtering animals
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 | 8:29 PM ET Comments509Recommend627
CBC News
An animal rights group has posted an ad on its website comparing the recent stabbing and decapitation of a young Winnipeg man to how humans kill animals for food.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said the advertisement is meant to make people understand how animals suffer when they are killed in slaughterhouses. The group posted the imageless advertisement on its blog site Wednesday.
Tim McLean, 22, was stabbed and then beheaded by a fellow passenger as the two rode an eastbound Greyhound bus across Manitoba last Wednesday. The man accused of second-degree murder, Vince Weiguang Li, allegedly engaged in cannibalism during the attack, which occurred just west of Portage la Prairie.
Designed using large, bold type, the ad compares McLean's struggles to those endured by an animal being slaughtered for its meat. It then refers to Li's alleged act of cannibalism before saying, "It's still going on!"
In its statement, PETA said it intended to run the notice in the Portage Daily Graphic, the local newspaper in Portage la Prairie, Man. PETA also sent out a news release to major media outlets across Canada announcing its plan to run the ad in the Manitoba paper, according to a story on the newspaper's website Wednesday.
The paper's publisher Barry Clayton, however, said the advertisement is in bad taste and will not be allowed to run.
PETA said it will discuss later this week whether to attempt to run the ad in other publications. |
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/08/06/peta-mclean.html
Religious nutters and animal rights nutters, both treating this tragedy as little more than a photo op. All that is needed is for Code Pink or International ANSWER to show up to make it an Axis of Idiots. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Insane. Imagine eejits like this protesting a family members funeral..i would be severely pissed. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Man. If I were in Manitoba right now. I know exactly what I'd be doing! |
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A2Steve
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If ever there was a case for rooting for domestic terrorists to take up a noble cause, it's hoping someone firebombs that group of cultists in the US.... I mean they provide you with the premade excuse already.... "hey it was God's will to send a pipebomb to them.... God hates morons just as much...
as for PETA, they just dropped about 99 percent in my eyes. talk about a bunch of grandstanding attention whores. glomming on to the tragedy of the situation to push your drivel is just pathetic. |
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Nowhere Man
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The fact thet they do funerals strikes me as particularly low. Talk about a time you don't want people shoving their beliefs upon you.
Yet, I predict it's just a matter of time till they start to get it back in kind, meaning moshpits across the street from their own funerals.
And now, it's gonna be people coming from around the world to do it. |
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Adventurer
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These people feel threatened by homosexuals and those having abortions. They are an extreme version of Falwell who said that Sept.11th happened because god was angry. There were plenty of killings in France during the Reign of Terror when homosexuality was not tolerated in that country. There is no connexion between homosexuality and Vincent Li going crazy. How does this church support itself, anyway?
In Canada, they can get arrested, I presume, for being hateful. Would their protest be illegal or not under Canadian law? I believe it could be. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Westboro Church to protest funeral of greyhound victim |
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WINNIPEG -- Residents rallied Thursday to protect the family of a young man murdered on a Greyhound bus last week from a posse of radical religious protesters planning to portray Tim McLean's death as God's wrath.
Earlier this week, the Westboro Baptist Church - an organization branded as a hate group and infamous for protesting the funerals of slain U.S. soldiers - announced they would picket Mr. McLean's funeral to let Canadians know that his decapitation was God's response to Canadian policies enabling abortion, homosexuality and adultery.
But Shirley Phelps-Roper, daughter of church's founder, Fred Phelps, said a small group of protesters was stopped at the Canada-U.S. border on Thursday afternoon.
"They won't let us in, but we have a group that will cross in another spot," she said. "They'll have to strip search everyone who crosses that border or they won't know who we are. They'll have to see the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) tattoo on our butts."
The resistance to the planned funeral protest started on Facebook yesterday morning when Jim Cotton, a resident of Winnipeg Beach, launched a page asking city residents to help protect Mr. McLean's funeral.
"We want to protect the family so they don't come out of the church service and see people shouting obscenities," said Mr. Cotton. "I've never met the McLean family. I've just been moved by the whole story."
Mr. Cotton was outraged and asked Winnipeg Facebookers to circle around the seven picketers tomorrow and pray for Mr. McLean's family.
By mid-afternoon Thursday, Mr. Cotton's page had over 100 friends. Rodney Taylor, an Ottawa resident, found the page and pitched in.
Mr. Taylor phoned the Prime Minister's Office, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day's office and border services, asking them to keep the Westboro group out of the country. He also created his own Facebook page urging other offended Canadians to follow his lead.
"These people are callous, vicious and shouldn't be let into our country," he said. "We have freedom of speech, but they are inciting hate."
Mr. Taylor's plan worked. Winnipeg NDP MP Pat Martin said his office was flooded with phone calls yesterday from angry Winnipeggers.
"These people [from Westboro] are almost as crazy as the murderer," he said. "If they are here to disrupt the social order, that constitutes grounds to deny them entry. There is no redeeming virtue in the message they are bringing."
According to Mr. Martin, Mr. Day's office sent an alert to border patrol to "look out" for people with signs and pamphlets that fit the hateful messages that the church promotes and to keep them out of the country.
"In the opinion of his office, coming up here with the message they're articulating constitutes hate speech," said Mr. Martin.
Members of the Kansas-based fundamentalist sect were already planning to picket in Canada prior to last week's bus slaying. The group was scheduled to protest in Toronto Thursday night at the opening of playwright Alistair Newton's "The Pastor Phelps Project: a fundamentalist cabaret", which satirizes their leader's fervent anti-gay stance.
Members have also been planning to picket outside a performance of "The Laramie Project" - a play based on the real life murders of two homosexuals in the United States - in Red Deer, Alta., Friday night. Residents of Red Deer have been planning their own counter-protest.
In 1999, the Canadian government said it was powerless to prevent Mr. Phelps from entering the country when he was planning a protest in Ottawa over a Supreme Court ruling extending rights to gays and lesbians.
At that time, the government said the minister could only make exceptions at the border to grant people entry who might otherwise be denied, not deny people entry who would normally be admitted.
Mr. Phelps, however, was a no-show at the protest because he feared for his safety after a pro-gay rights group planned a counter-protest.
The Winnipeg Police Service said they were not planning to block the funeral protest if the group successfully crossed the border, but they were prepared to be on hand if necessary. |
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=707624
Outrageous. I sincerely hope they get what they're asking for. |
Last year the church was ordered to pay $11 Million to a family for its funeral protest.
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| Albert Snyder of York, Pennsylvania, sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq. |
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Nowhere Man
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: ... |
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| These people feel threatened by homosexuals and those having abortions. |
Yeah, but they're targeting funerals. That's one step away from them targeting soldier's weddings. As a crew of god-fearing people, they don't seem concerned about their own funerals being being flash-bombed.
These twits are going to reap the whirlwind. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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The funeral is tomorrow and the "church" made it into Canada.. Noise from the interweb suggests quite a solid number of counter-protesters are going to show up. It is also being suggested that the "God Hates Canada" signs are hate-speech and they could therefore be arrested.
This poor dude's funeral will now be a three ring circus.
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Members of a U.S. fringe group crossed the border into Canada overnight and are hiding somewhere in Manitoba, preparing to picket Tim McLean Jr.'s funeral, the Winnipeg man murdered and decapitated on a Greyhound bus last week, the group's spokesperson claimed Friday.
Canadian border authorities had stopped a separate group from entering Thursday, but Westboro Baptist Church spokeswoman Shirley Phelps-Roper said a second group managed to sneak through by sending identifying items separately by courier.
"They were looking for leaflets, which we don't do, and signs, which we do, but we have Federal Express," said Ms. Phelps-Roper. "Our guys are safely tucked away."
Earlier this week, the church -- an organization branded by some as a hate group and infamous for protesting the funerals of slain American soldiers -- announced it would picket McLean's funeral to let Canadians know that his decapitation was God's response to Canadian policies enabling abortion, homosexuality and adultery.
Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day's office had sent an alert to border patrol to "look out" for people with signs and pamphlets that fit the hateful messages that the church promotes and to keep them out of the country.
Ms. Phelps-Roper, 50, said she also received a phone call Friday morning from an RCMP officer who warned that their "God Hates Canada" placards could be against Canadian hate laws. She also scoffed at plans by some Winnipeg residents to stage a protective counter-protest against the Westboro militants saying: "God looks out for us." |
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=710385
Do non-Canadians have Charter protection for protest/speech?
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Justin Hale
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As a devout religiophobe, I absolutely love the WBC.  However, they are the most mentally, morally and emotionally foul and obscene subhumans alive at present. All extremist religious persons and groups are below the human race in evolutionary development. |
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mindmetoo
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I like how PETA used it to promote their cause too.
Geez. |
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mindmetoo
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mindmetoo
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blaseblasphemener
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Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| One of these days these jergoffs are going to show up at the wrong funeral, and they will be lucky to leave with their lives. It's only a matter of time before they provoke a manslaughter response. I would pray for it, if I believed that prayers worked. |
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