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Is it OK to bring pets into restaurants? |
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seoulsister

Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: International Network
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: Dogs in Restaurants? |
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This afternoon I was completely grossed out when a couple came into Burger King, each with a dog. Hers was a rodent-like little thing with a head the size of my fist, his was a decently sized small dog. Not only did they bring the filthy mutts into the restaurant, but they then proceeded to let them loose to wander around in there while they munched on their burgers. I seemed to be the only one there who found this pretty vile.
I would have thought BK and any civilised eating place would have a policy against animals in the restaurant, if not a health code? I'm interested to know whether most people would have found this as gross as I did.
Supporting my personal opinion that these people were morons, when they left I watched them cross the street at a nearby big crossing. Or try to. The man and his dog got across, but the woman stood waiting patiently for her rat-dog to get the courage to cross, which it didn't. Instead of dragging it/poking it/pulling it/picking it up she ran back and forth as far as the leash would allow, the dog refusing to budge until she finally got trapped by the change of lights. Kind of embarrassing I thought, to be out-witted by a fist-brained size pup.
Dogs in restaurants, yes or no? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Should humans be allowed in dog restaurants?
Uniquely Korean question.
Personally, I don't think a dog in a restaurant will actually contaminate my food or bother me. People are way too 'yuck!' nowadays. |
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jiyull

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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I think it's not allowed. I bet the workers are paid too low to care. |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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Only if they are on the menu. Otherwise, no way! |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Dogs in restaurants don't bother me. It is the lack of personal hygiene in this country that gets me. I'd say more than half of all restaurant workers go to the bathroom, sneeze and blow their noses and don't wash their hans. Then, they are touching your food and drinks...YUCK!!! Not to mention, I've seen stories on here of people who let their kids pee in a cup inside a restaurant with a restroom a few feet away. Totally nasty. Not to mention truly backwards and third world style. Some Koreans act like some Mexicans back in my home state. They will pee outside with a bathroom a few feet away inside. My parents have neighbors that did this, until someone reported them. Are people too lazy to walk inside to a restroom? |
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Kikomom

Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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There's nothing on the dogs' paws that isn't already on the bottom on your shoes, or being tracked into any restaurant already.
Would you refuse service to someone with a service dog?
Allowing them to roam around is uncalled for though. If they aren't trained well enough to sit quietly, then I agree, they shouldn't be there. |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I've managed to sneak my little angel into coffee shops, department stores with "no dogs allowed" signs out front, and a few restaurants ... but there are places where I wouldn't try it. I usually keep her in a red bag strapped to my stomach, and she just sits quietly. |
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maddog
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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I've been around dogs all my life. They ate their dinner in the kitchen and were regularly given tidbits under the table. I don't think I'd even have noticed to be honest.
Back home, I some quiet out-of-the-way bars, people often bring their dogs, and many of these bars also serve food. I wouldn't care.
Finally, I've heard of some of the things disgruntled employees do to the food in fast food restaurants. A dog on your side of the counter should be the least of your worries.
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Dogs in Restaurants? |
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seoulsister wrote: |
Not only did they bring the filthy mutts into the restaurant |
those dogs are cleaner than you~!
as a matter of fact dogs mouths are cleaner than humans!
and also I bet those dogs are groomed often, and well kept!
in comes your smelly, sweating over weight ass! all sticky and smelling of sweat! and you want to call the dog filthy?? YEAH OK!!
but dogs in restaurants NO, smokers in restaurants NO!
flip flops in restaurants NO! whining customers in restaurants NO!
BYO in restaurants NO! seperate bills in restaurants NO! |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Dogs in Restaurants? |
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itaewonguy wrote: |
those dogs are cleaner than you~!
as a matter of fact dogs mouths are cleaner than humans!
and also I bet those dogs are groomed often, and well kept!
in comes your smelly, sweating over weight ass! all sticky and smelling of sweat! and you want to call the dog filthy?? YEAH OK!!
but dogs in restaurants NO, smokers in restaurants NO!
flip flops in restaurants NO! whining customers in restaurants NO!
BYO in restaurants NO! seperate bills in restaurants NO! |
Rather than waste my time tearing apart your entire post, I'll just give you a word of advice. It's actually spelled 'separate'.
Sorry, just one of my pet peeves. |
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cmr
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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svetsky
Joined: 02 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: Dogs in Restaurants is the norm in Europe |
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I love dogs and have lived in europe for a large portion of my life, where it is allowed.
In Berlin, My boyfriend and I took our dog everywhere, the Restaurant even
gives the dog a water dish, usually the dog just hangs out under the table by your feet..
They even have dog watering holes available on the street in some areas..
Dogs on trains, buses, restaurants, in bars.. we wanted to take her into the movies but I don't think that was allowed...and she was a big dog, Doberman/Pit bull mix..She behaved very well in public....
No, its not disgusting, its normal, at least for me |
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Kikomom

Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Svetsky:
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we wanted to take her into the movies but I don't think that was allowed... |
What if you bought her a ticket? (Blame it on the box office, they let her in.
Or take her to the lyceum?
I would like to ask the OP, Seoulsister, have you ever had a bad experience with an out-of-control dog? A bite, attack, witnessed a dog attack at some point in your life? A dog-borne illness? Rabies?
Not trying to play the shrink, just wondering if people with a dislike for animals are associating that to a bad experience in their past, or even recently?
Anyone else with horrific dog attack experience that would like to say?
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Kid-Aggressive Canines
You may wonder why some dogs are very comfortable around adults, but exhibit aggressive behavior towards kids. The truth is that many dogs perceive children differently from the way they see adults. They move differently, walk differently, smell differently, and sound differently. It�s in their nature to react to any energy that, to them, seems unbalanced or unstable.
The reality is that most parents don�t teach their children the correct way to act around dogs. We teach our kids that it�s okay to get excited when they see a dog. Children often run to the dog and look him square in the eye, invading its physical space before the dog is ready. Remember, in their natural world, animals attack instability, and excitement can be perceived by a dog as instability.
I often bring my sons Andre, 11, and Calvin, 7, on the job with me when dealing with a child-aggressive dog. Mind you, I�d never, ever put my kids in even a remotely dangerous situation. Any dog allowed near my boys has to be under my control. Growing up around my pack, my boys know that it�s vital to always project calm, assertive energy when they are around animals. That�s why Andre and Calvin are such assets to our family business! They also turned out to be valuable assistants when I dealt with Hootie, the kid-phobic agility dog.
Do �mean� and �vicious� dog breeds exist?
Let�s get one thing straight. There is no such thing as a �vicious� dog breed. The truth is that ANY breed of dog, big or small, can develop aggression. Aggression is a symptom of an unsatisfied dog; a dog whose life is not being fulfilled. Some breeds, including �pit bulls,� Rottweilers, and German shepherds, are more powerful than other breeds, so if they become aggressive, they can almost always do much more damage. Smaller dogs, like Chihuahuas, can often be defensive when fearful or nervous � you�d be a little surly too if you were constantly being treated like a purse! But when dogs of all shapes, sizes, and breeds are treated and cared for properly, they have the potential to be calm and balanced pets.
You may remember �Nu Nu,� from the first season of Dog Whisperer. He was very human-aggressive, so much so that my producers dubbed him the �Demon Chihuahua.� This episode I�ll introduce you to Bandit, or �Nu Nu, II,� as my crew called him. I�ve met a lot of �demon� Chihuahuas in my career; in fact, Coco, the Chihuahua in my pack, was once one of them. Like Nu Nu and Bandit, Coco was very human-aggressive and much of her hostility was directed towards kids. Now rehabilitated, Coco not only helps with the rehabilitation of other unstable dogs, she is one of my family�s most trusted family pets � and the special dog of my youngest son, Calvin.
http://cesarmillaninc.com/dwblog/Season2ep01.php
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I love Cesar, and dogs. They really do make the best door bells. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Kikomom wrote: |
Would you refuse service to someone with a service dog? |
I've been away from the West for a while so I don't know, but is that the PC term for a wife nowadays?
(I'm just kidding, but I've honestly never heard the term 'service dog' before. I guess it's a guide dog or a deaf dog or something similar right? Are there any other 'services' dogs perform?) |
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