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Too Many Males ~ Consequences
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M-su



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Too Many Males ~ Consequences Reply with quote

For those of you who didn't know this, there's a huge male surplus in Korea. There will be an estimated 400 000 - 500 000 single wild geese roaming the streets (of Korea, not just Seoul) by 2015-2020. (will provide link upon request)

There's also the mandatory 2-year military service and the charming corporate world. Take away cigarettes, soju and sam-gyop-sal and a couple million ajosshis would have no reason to live. (not necessarily unique to Korea)

I went to Ehwa woman's university the other day. I was having a blast up until I stopped by the washroom and this rotten creep who looked like something congealed in the gutter was puffing away in one of the stalls. Awesome!!

There is a handful of men out there who are taking to the side of the street in loving consideration of the hundreds of thousands of other people who also have the right to walk in the streets.

Most people, the good old ajosshis in particular, don't give a rat's ass about others. Being disgusting is all they know. They spit and hark and smoke and shove and send out weird animal noises, I'm guessing this is their mating call or something.

I'm not saying this is unique to Korea, but it sure is more pronounced here than in any other of the 14 countries I've been to, some of which I have lived in.

A true gentleman wouldn't spit right in front women or light up a cig by children. It's fine, I know they don't give a damn about me, but show some goddamn common courtesy in front of the ladies. You can ban smoking in public spaces but you can't change the deep-rooted values (confucianism) that put men above women, the morally corrupt corporate world (how come Koreans work the longest hours in the world, but have the lowest productivity among ALL OECD countries?)

How come Korea has the lowest birth rate in world? And also the lowest percent of foreign students in the entire world? Korea is however the largest producer and consumer of spirits in the world, again AwEsOmE!!

There is something fundamentally wrong with Korean men, they are the root of all the major social problems here.


http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2889977

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/22/world/asia/22brides.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/23/news/brides.php

This article is based on TOTAL population, including grandpa n grandma. It neglects to address the hundreds of thousands of single men between the ages of 15/46.
http://english.kbs.co.kr/news/newsview_sub.php?menu=8&key=2008041403

Korea is not mentioned here but the same goes for the Land of the Morning Calm.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2006/08/29/gender-imbalance.html

Korea mentioned
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jan/24/china.international

Google this one!!
Too Many Males: Marriage Market Implications of Gender Imbalances ...


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Frankly Mr Shankly



Joined: 13 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Male Surplus and Smoking - "they are that rude!&quo Reply with quote

M-su wrote:


There is something fundamentally wrong with men, they are the root of all the major social problems .


Fixed your last line in order to make it universally compatible with the theory of gender feminism.
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browneyedgirl



Joined: 17 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Male Surplus and Smoking - "they are that rude!&quo Reply with quote

M-su wrote:
For those of you who didn't know this, there's a huge male surplus in Korea. There will be an estimated 400 000 - 500 000 single wild geese roaming the streets (of Korea, not just Seoul) by 2015-2020. (will provide link upon request).


OK, I request.
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was teaching in an elem. school and noticed fewer than a quarter of the class were female students, the rest being male in EVERY class I taught.

How did that happen I wonder?

There will be a big problem with securing wives for K-fellows in future.
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daemyann



Joined: 09 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Male Surplus and Smoking - "they are that rude!&quo Reply with quote

M-su wrote:
show some goddamn common courtesy in front of the ladies.

It's interesting that you've traveled so far and been exposed to so much, yet somehow have never considered the possibility that "common courtesy" isn't really 'common' at all...
M-su wrote:

There is something fundamentally wrong with Korean men, they are the root of all the major social problems here.

Think carefully about what you just said...

I don't mean think cyclically, I mean critically.

When you're finished, edit your post.
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daemyann



Joined: 09 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fusionbarnone wrote:
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How did that happen I wonder?

I'm guessing the previous Korean heavy preference for male heirs.
fusionbarnone wrote:
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There will be a big problem with securing wives for K-fellows in future.

Not if they continue to be allowed to buy them from Thailand and the PHP.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, the good old ajosshi, loved by all, understood by few.
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: Male Surplus and Smoking - "they are that rude!&quo Reply with quote

M-su wrote:
For those of you who didn't know this, there's a huge male surplus in Korea. There will be an estimated 400 000 - 500 000 single wild geese roaming the streets (of Korea, not just Seoul) by 2015-2020. (will provide link upon request)


Why not provide the number for the current male surplus rather than the projected one, if you are saying there is a huge male surplus in Korea (right now)?
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW GOOD TROLL JOB OP:


Sex Ratio

At birth: 1.08 male(s)/female
Under 15 years: 1.106 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.038 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.688 male(s)/female
Total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2008 est.)
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
WOW GOOD TROLL JOB OP:


Wow. Good job moron. He never said total men and women.
Including men over 65 doesn't make sense as he was talking about:

Quote:
There will be an estimated 400 000 - 500 000 single wild geese roaming the streets (of Korea, not just Seoul) by 2015-2020. (will provide link upon request)



Right now there are 650,000 extra men from 15-64. I am sure his number is fairly accurate for men that are 20-50.

Age structure

* 0-14 years: 18.3% (male 4,714,103/female 4,262,873)
* 15-64 years: 72.1% (male 18,004,719/female 17,346,594)
* 65 years and over: 9.6% (male 1,921,803/female 2,794,698)

[edit] Growth

* Birth rate: 9.93 births/1,000 population (2007 est.)
* Total fertility rate: 1.25 children born/woman (August 2007 est.)
* Death rate: 5.99 deaths/1,000 population (2007 est.)
* Infant mortality rate: 6.05 deaths/1,000 live births (2007 est.)
* Net migration rate: 0 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2007 est.)

[edit] Sex ratio

* at birth: 1.13 male(s)/female
* under 15 years: 1.12 male(s)/female
* 15-99 years: 1.03 male(s)/female
* 65 years and over: 0.63 male(s)/female
* total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2000 est.)

[edit] Life expectancy

* total population: 79.05 years
* male: 75.7 years
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Male Surplus and Smoking - "they are that rude!&quo Reply with quote

M-su wrote:
the morally corrupt corporate world (how come Koreans work the longest hours in the world, but have the lowest productivity among ALL OECD countries?)

Are you for real? What does morality have anything to do with low productivity?

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How come Korea has the lowest birth rate in world?

They don't. Japan, to name just one, is lower. Regardless, do you think it has anything to do with the skyrocketing monthly costs of education?
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Bryan



Joined: 29 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Quote:
WOW GOOD TROLL JOB OP:


Wow. Good job moron. He never said total men and women.
Including men over 65 doesn't make sense as he was talking about:


I included the 15-65 statistic, where men and women are almost equal! Learn to read bud.

Sex Ratio

At birth: 1.08 male(s)/female
Under 15 years: 1.106 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.038 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.688 male(s)/female
Total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2008 est.)

You know that ratio is closer together than most countries on the planet?

OP is just a troll. He wants to irrationally hate on Korean men.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Male Surplus and Smoking - "they are that rude!& Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
M-su wrote:
the morally corrupt corporate world (how come Koreans work the longest hours in the world, but have the lowest productivity among ALL OECD countries?)

Are you for real? What does morality have anything to do with low productivity?

Quote:
How come Korea has the lowest birth rate in world?

They don't. Japan, to name just one, is lower. Regardless, do you think it has anything to do with the skyrocketing monthly costs of education?


Primary school in Korea is free for all. Middle and High schools have a nominal fee.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bryan wrote:
Guri Guy wrote:
Quote:
WOW GOOD TROLL JOB OP:


Wow. Good job moron. He never said total men and women.
Including men over 65 doesn't make sense as he was talking about:


I included the 15-65 statistic, where men and women are almost equal! Learn to read bud.

Sex Ratio

At birth: 1.08 male(s)/female
Under 15 years: 1.106 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.038 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.688 male(s)/female
Total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2008 est.)

You know that ratio is closer together than most countries on the planet?

OP is just a troll. He wants to irrationally hate on Korean men.


OP was making a projection, one that jives completely with your numbers.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Male Surplus and Smoking - "they are that rude!& Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
Young FRANKenstein wrote:
M-su wrote:
the morally corrupt corporate world (how come Koreans work the longest hours in the world, but have the lowest productivity among ALL OECD countries?)

Are you for real? What does morality have anything to do with low productivity?

Quote:
How come Korea has the lowest birth rate in world?

They don't. Japan, to name just one, is lower. Regardless, do you think it has anything to do with the skyrocketing monthly costs of education?


Primary school in Korea is free for all. Middle and High schools have a nominal fee.

Hagwons are not free. Neither are the cram schools many high schoolers attend. Nor the summer vacation study trips made abroad.
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