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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: Obama sowing socialist seeds in young people |
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/28/voight/
"Theodore Dalrymple:
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade, or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are focused to remain silent when they are told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity.* To assent to the obvious lies is to cooperate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. A person�s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control." |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe you should be honest that you are quoting not the article, but a comment from an unregistered user on the internet. Newsflash: almost anyone (even conservatives pretending to be liberals) can post on the internet. That doesn't necessarily mean it is true. |
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ytuque
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
--Winston Churchill |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Maybe you should be honest that you are quoting not the article, but a comment from an unregistered user on the internet. Newsflash: almost anyone (even conservatives pretending to be liberals) can post on the internet. That doesn't necessarily mean it is true. |
Exactly.
The cultural attacks, by which I mean the attacks on Obama's personality, are getting annoying. Its not a commendation for the conservative movement that this is all they can come up with.
I think Obama needs to stick to issues, issues, issues in his response. He's most compelling when he talks about how he's going to bring us back from the brink of incompetence. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| Remember this is coming from a guy who thinks rock 'n' roll is the work of the devil and witches are running around africa killing people. The man lives in a harry potter world. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| ytuque wrote: |
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
--Winston Churchill |
Of course, he said that before Bush Jr. was born, so it no longer counts. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: |
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From what I've read of Obama, he is talking about how the community, all of us, need to work together to solve problems. This is not socialism. This is reality. The nay-sayers accuse him of ever more extreme ideas because they have other agendas.
What is wrong with thinking of all of us in the country as members of a group with some common problems that need to be addressed? The idea that we are all family did not use to be a forbidden idea. What is starting to happen is the panic of the losers. We have just a bit more than 2 1/2 months left till the election. The hysterics are getting hysterical. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Maybe you should be honest that you are quoting not the article, but a comment from an unregistered user on the internet. Newsflash: almost anyone (even conservatives pretending to be liberals) can post on the internet. That doesn't necessarily mean it is true. |
I never knew that their was a "method" of quoting. I just quoted it because it speaks truth. Sorry, I shouldn't have put it with Obama.
There's a lot of things I like about Obama as well. I am still undecided on him. |
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ytuque
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| agentX wrote: |
| ytuque wrote: |
Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
--Winston Churchill |
Of course, he said that before Bush Jr. was born, so it no longer counts. |
Perhaps in GWB's case, there is neither heart nor brains? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Maybe you should be honest that you are quoting not the article, but a comment from an unregistered user on the internet. Newsflash: almost anyone (even conservatives pretending to be liberals) can post on the internet. That doesn't necessarily mean it is true. |
I never knew that their was a "method" of quoting. I just quoted it because it speaks truth. Sorry, I shouldn't have put it with Obama.
There's a lot of things I like about Obama as well. I am still undecided on him. |
Given you can't vote in American elections, who cares? This thread has as much point about your rambling about the power of witches and the evils of rock 'n' roll, gramps. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Not that it's true, but I'd be all for an increased in Socialist tendencies amongst the youth of the US. We could do with a few things...
Real governmental funding in, and preferably ownership of, renewable energy infrastructure.
Real government funding put into a national system of high speed trains. Why we're wasting money on corn as a biofuel and driving up food costs around the world I'll never understand. I do know why, and I blame Tom Harkin. I'd take a fast, affordable train before I'd fly any day.
Socialized education and medicine would also go a long way to increasing the health and education of our citizens which would then increase our prowess in a global economy. |
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SirFink
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Okay. I get it fiveeages. You hate Obama. Just don't vote for the guy and quit posting propaganda BS. You're the guy who thinks some tattooed douche bag in Florida is resur-effing-ecting people! You are completely out of touch with reality. Why should we believe anything you post? I love reading your crap cuz it's more entertaining than Stan Lee at his prime. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| SirFink wrote: |
| Okay. I get it fiveeages. You hate Obama. Just don't vote for the guy and quit posting propaganda BS. You're the guy who thinks some tattooed douche bag in Florida is resur-effing-ecting people! You are completely out of touch with reality. Why should we believe anything you post? I love reading your crap cuz it's more entertaining than Stan Lee at his prime. |
Actually, I don't hate Obama at all. How can I hate a guy who preaches the social gospel so eloquently; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0x_TpDris.
So before you quickly judge me...maybe you shouldn't.  |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
| SirFink wrote: |
| Okay. I get it fiveeages. You hate Obama. Just don't vote for the guy and quit posting propaganda BS. You're the guy who thinks some tattooed douche bag in Florida is resur-effing-ecting people! You are completely out of touch with reality. Why should we believe anything you post? I love reading your crap cuz it's more entertaining than Stan Lee at his prime. |
Actually, I don't hate Obama at all. How can I hate a guy who preaches the social gospel so eloquently; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0x_TpDris.
So before you quickly judge me...maybe you shouldn't. |
I think it would hard to say anyone rushes to judge you given your several year history and your long history of posting nut bar religious crap. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
| SirFink wrote: |
| Okay. I get it fiveeages. You hate Obama. Just don't vote for the guy and quit posting propaganda BS. You're the guy who thinks some tattooed douche bag in Florida is resur-effing-ecting people! You are completely out of touch with reality. Why should we believe anything you post? I love reading your crap cuz it's more entertaining than Stan Lee at his prime. |
Actually, I don't hate Obama at all. How can I hate a guy who preaches the social gospel so eloquently; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0x_TpDris.
So before you quickly judge me...maybe you shouldn't. |
I think it would hard to say anyone rushes to judge you given your several year history and your long history of posting nut bar religious crap. |
Let's see, Obama believes in the following;
1. There is evil in the world,
2. Jesus Christ is His savior and redeemer.
3. That he was selfish when he was younger and was out of God's will
4. Faith based initiatives
5. Helping the least of these
Some of the greatest men believe in what I believe in. Your arrogance in condemning me will only come back to haunt you MM2. I promise you that. |
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