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ABC KID
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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3 years 3 months is not enough.
One can only hope pedo's get the same treatment in Thai jails as they do elsewhere. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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One would think that decent people would rise above the base desire to wish another person be the victim of a crime. One would think that decent people would be aware that it's not really the crime for which the person is incarcerated that leads him to becoming a victim of other prisoners, but his means to defend himself.
One would also think that a person would read the whole story and realize that the particular criminal in this case is going to be tried for another crime. No doubt, he'll find himself serving more time in a Thai jail than the current schedule provides for him.
I agree that the man's sentence is light in comparison to what he probably would receive in our home countries; however, he has been sentenced to serve time in a jail in Thailand. I seriously doubt that the conditions there are anything at all like they are for prisoners in Canada.
I find the man's crime disgusting. And I find the wish for another person to become the victim of a crime also to be a disgusting thing.
So, for the poster above, a question: So, you think justice would be the man be abused by another criminal? What, then, should the other criminal's reward be for meting out that abuse? What if the other criminal is in prison also for molesting a child?
It drives me around the bend to see normally decent, upright people taking glee in a vicious crime being perpretrated or wishing such a crime on another person.
By the way, in case anyone's wondering, yes, I am against the death penalty in all cases. |
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ABC KID
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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One would also think that a person would read the whole story and realize that the particular criminal in this case is going to be tried for another crime. No doubt, he'll find himself serving more time in a Thai jail than the current schedule provides for him.
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I did read all of the story. Assuming the same sentence is repeated for the second trial making six years and six months, I think it is fair to say that some would still argue he got off very lightly indeed... |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Castration would have been a better sentence...... |
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Captain Marlow
Joined: 23 Apr 2008
Location: darkness
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
3 years 3 months is not enough.
One can only hope pedo's get the same treatment in Thai jails as they do elsewhere. |
i second that... he has ruined these childrens' lives... they will be carrying this baggage with them through all of their future relationships and experiences, and i see no way that this will be positive...
on the other hand, this disgusting piece of s**t spends a bit of his life in prison, then will be out to, most likely, commit the same crime...
i wouldn't feel at all bad if he were given a life sentence, and, in fact would feel that the world was a better place for it...
centralcali, get off the high horse please... |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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^Agreed on the last bit.
The sentence is ridiculously brief, no matter the conditions. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ABC KID wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
One would also think that a person would read the whole story and realize that the particular criminal in this case is going to be tried for another crime. No doubt, he'll find himself serving more time in a Thai jail than the current schedule provides for him.
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I did read all of the story. Assuming the same sentence is repeated for the second trial making six years and six months, I think it is fair to say that some would still argue he got off very lightly indeed... |
You'll notice that I said in my post above that I consider his sentence to be too light. He pled guilty during the first trial and thus the judge sentenced him to 1/2 the maximum sentence. He's currently denying the charges for which he's facing another trial. Seems to me that if he doesn't change that tune, he'll be getting a bit more time in Hotel Bangkok.
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| Castration would have been a better sentence...... |
You see, only barbaric places such as Saudi Arabia still practice mutilation as a punishment. |
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R-Seoul
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: your place
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
One would think that decent people would rise above the base desire to wish another person be the victim of a crime. One would think that decent people would be aware that it's not really the crime for which the person is incarcerated that leads him to becoming a victim of other prisoners, but his means to defend himself.
One would also think that a person would read the whole story and realize that the particular criminal in this case is going to be tried for another crime. No doubt, he'll find himself serving more time in a Thai jail than the current schedule provides for him.
I agree that the man's sentence is light in comparison to what he probably would receive in our home countries; however, he has been sentenced to serve time in a jail in Thailand. I seriously doubt that the conditions there are anything at all like they are for prisoners in Canada.
I find the man's crime disgusting. And I find the wish for another person to become the victim of a crime also to be a disgusting thing.
So, for the poster above, a question: So, you think justice would be the man be abused by another criminal? What, then, should the other criminal's reward be for meting out that abuse? What if the other criminal is in prison also for molesting a child?
It drives me around the bend to see normally decent, upright people taking glee in a vicious crime being perpretrated or wishing such a crime on another person.
By the way, in case anyone's wondering, yes, I am against the death penalty in all cases. |
Good post, well written. |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| You see, only barbaric places such as Saudi Arabia still practice mutilation as a punishment. |
Barbaric? What about the barbaric-ness of his crimes, many of which have yet to be prosecuted/will never be adjudicated? |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| cheeseface wrote: |
| Castration would have been a better sentence...... |
You see, only barbaric places such as Saudi Arabia still practice mutilation as a punishment. |
Chemical castration would be fine. |
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seoulteacher
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| R-Seoul wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
One would think that decent people would rise above the base desire to wish another person be the victim of a crime. One would think that decent people would be aware that it's not really the crime for which the person is incarcerated that leads him to becoming a victim of other prisoners, but his means to defend himself.
One would also think that a person would read the whole story and realize that the particular criminal in this case is going to be tried for another crime. No doubt, he'll find himself serving more time in a Thai jail than the current schedule provides for him.
I agree that the man's sentence is light in comparison to what he probably would receive in our home countries; however, he has been sentenced to serve time in a jail in Thailand. I seriously doubt that the conditions there are anything at all like they are for prisoners in Canada.
I find the man's crime disgusting. And I find the wish for another person to become the victim of a crime also to be a disgusting thing.
So, for the poster above, a question: So, you think justice would be the man be abused by another criminal? What, then, should the other criminal's reward be for meting out that abuse? What if the other criminal is in prison also for molesting a child?
It drives me around the bend to see normally decent, upright people taking glee in a vicious crime being perpretrated or wishing such a crime on another person.
By the way, in case anyone's wondering, yes, I am against the death penalty in all cases. |
Good post, well written. |
I agree with R-Seoul:
good post, well written, CentralCali. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Chemical castration?
Maybe not such a good idea.
Why not have a realistic sentence of incarceration instead? That would keep the pedophile away from children.
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| CentralCali wrote: |
You see, only barbaric places such as Saudi Arabia still practice mutilation as a punishment. |
Barbaric? What about the barbaric-ness of his crimes, many of which have yet to be prosecuted/will never be adjudicated? |
You mean barbarity. Call me silly, but I'd rather not lower myself to Neil's level.
Perhaps you have an answer to the question I posed above:
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| So, you think justice would be the man be abused by another criminal? What, then, should the other criminal's reward be for meting out that abuse? What if the other criminal is in prison also for molesting a child? |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
One would think that decent people would rise above the base desire to wish another person be the victim of a crime. One would think that decent people would be aware that it's not really the crime for which the person is incarcerated that leads him to becoming a victim of other prisoners, but his means to defend himself.
One would also think that a person would read the whole story and realize that the particular criminal in this case is going to be tried for another crime. No doubt, he'll find himself serving more time in a Thai jail than the current schedule provides for him.
I agree that the man's sentence is light in comparison to what he probably would receive in our home countries; however, he has been sentenced to serve time in a jail in Thailand. I seriously doubt that the conditions there are anything at all like they are for prisoners in Canada.
I find the man's crime disgusting. And I find the wish for another person to become the victim of a crime also to be a disgusting thing.
So, for the poster above, a question: So, you think justice would be the man be abused by another criminal? What, then, should the other criminal's reward be for meting out that abuse? What if the other criminal is in prison also for molesting a child?
It drives me around the bend to see normally decent, upright people taking glee in a vicious crime being perpretrated or wishing such a crime on another person.
By the way, in case anyone's wondering, yes, I am against the death penalty in all cases. |
a pedophile who gets raped in prison deserves it.
People taking glee at the misfortune of others is as old as Mankind itself. Certainly it's a better emotional response than taking glee in someone being raped for no real reason other than their age or gender.
As they say in the cellblock, "Dont do the crime, if you can't do the time." Or punishment! ANY punishment. |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
Chemical castration?
Maybe not such a good idea.
Why not have a realistic sentence of incarceration instead? That would keep the pedophile away from children.
| whatever wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
You see, only barbaric places such as Saudi Arabia still practice mutilation as a punishment. |
Barbaric? What about the barbaric-ness of his crimes, many of which have yet to be prosecuted/will never be adjudicated? |
You mean barbarity. Call me silly, but I'd rather not lower myself to Neil's level.
Perhaps you have an answer to the question I posed above:
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| So, you think justice would be the man be abused by another criminal? What, then, should the other criminal's reward be for meting out that abuse? What if the other criminal is in prison also for molesting a child? |
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You seem to think that prison would be too harsh for this gut because he would be abused my fellow inmates?
What kind of sentence do you think he should have received?
I'll stick by castration, chemical or surgical. |
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