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DrOctagon
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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Then don't have kids.
*this is my last post in threads that have to do with cannabis. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Why is this test the topic of so many discussions. I mean don't people who smoke the stuff know when it leaves the blood stream? I would also suggest that those who are that worried about this test are not here to teach on the first place (although edutain would be more fitting for us hagwon workers) rather just for the money and perhaps some Korean ________( insert slang term from opposite[ or should I say preferred ] gender sexual organ here ).
It's just a test to calm the paranoia of the Koreans and to make sure you are "fit" to teach. Besides, marijuana is ILLEGAL here so they don't want people who are / may seek out former highs. If you have nothing to hide then take the test and then go have some nice Soju or something. YES I'm aware they removed it... but that's not my point.
Who cares about this stupid test anyway. This isn't the Olympics, it's a job and having had teachers in the past who were regular users, and judging by their ability to teach, I'd say it was a good idea to have it and a bad idea to drop it.
Now stop whining about the drug test. |
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eddie420man
Joined: 22 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ ok, i stand corrected. although i find it truly amazing/frightening how many people on dave's are worried about this drug test. |
What makes you so worried or scared?
Is it because with one hit of the whacky tobacky, you instantly turn into an axe wielding maniac?
If that is why i understand......... |
if someone wants to smoke pot, then go ahead, i just don't think that person should have a career teaching children and being a role model to them. i know if i had children i would not want them being taught by someone who smokes up, regardless of how often or how much. |
I wonder how many of your teachers lit up after a long day of teaching rugrats.
You never smoked before? |
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CPT
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Possible stupid question.
If you think you may test positive for the cannabinoid test that may or may not be done, but won't be included with your results, should you still answer "no" to the narcotics question on the self-assessment? I'm just assuming answering "yes" means you won't even get to the test.
Is that a loophole that could cost you your visa, even though they aren't "testing" anymore? |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad-ish wrote: |
| eddie420man wrote: |
| nomad-ish wrote: |
| ^ ok, i stand corrected. although i find it truly amazing/frightening how many people on dave's are worried about this drug test. |
What makes you so worried or scared?
Is it because with one hit of the whacky tobacky, you instantly turn into an axe wielding maniac?
If that is why i understand......... |
if someone wants to smoke pot, then go ahead, i just don't think that person should have a career teaching children and being a role model to them. i know if i had children i would not want them being taught by someone who smokes up, regardless of how often or how much. |
We are talking about Korean Children. So, in that case what do you think about this? I would never want my children taught by someone who drinks soju, regardless of how often or how much. |
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desperation
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Those who know, won't say and those who say, don't know. Welcome to Dave's !
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| CPT wrote: |
Possible stupid question.
If you think you may test positive for the cannabinoid test that may or may not be done, but won't be included with your results, should you still answer "no" to the narcotics question on the self-assessment? I'm just assuming answering "yes" means you won't even get to the test.
Is that a loophole that could cost you your visa, even though they aren't "testing" anymore? |
Dude, how old are you? You never saw an American or other job application that asked if you ever used illegal drugs or had mental or physical problems and if so WHAT? Nobody GETS the job if they answer "yes" and start making a list.
Answer NO, and go insane if it comes back positive. Demand a retest. Be very offended. Call them incompetent.
Answering YES will cost you the opportunity. You will be told to find another job. Same goes for any question you give them that may cause any concern to them. And this is true of REAL-world jobs too. If they ask you if you had a history of depression and you take prozac.....YOU ANSWER NO. Speaking of which: How do such people get their "meds" here. I spoke to my coworker about antidepressants and she told me they don't have them here. I spoke to other people and they looked at me like I had 3 heads...."why would someone need a pill like that" they wanted to know.. And what happens if your gov't medical insurance finds out you went to a shrink here because you were depressed or too stressed or whatever.....or asked your regular Dr. for such pills like zanax....I can guess what happens to your job. But I wonder if anyone knows about that stuff.
Oh and as far as drinking and teaching goes, it makes me sick to see bosses and teachers drunk at "company dinners". Totally unprofessional and totally unnecessary. Get drunk in the privacy of your own life, like a pothead would huff a nug. Going out into public and cackling, slurring speech, getting into dramatic arguments and then storming away.... drunken Korean dramas ......and making a scene--- is not what I expect from those who are role models. I would much prefer a down low dank aficionado who keeps it together. Herbal libations are far far far less intoxicating then alcohol, and those that prefer such a small degree of inebriation are far more "jinjee" to me, than those who need to get obliterated and puke outside the galbi restaurant... then cry and threaten to quit....and go run off to drive drunk home. So put that in your bubbler and smoke it ! |
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CPT
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| desperation wrote: |
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Possible stupid question.
If you think you may test positive for the cannabinoid test that may or may not be done, but won't be included with your results, should you still answer "no" to the narcotics question on the self-assessment? I'm just assuming answering "yes" means you won't even get to the test.
Is that a loophole that could cost you your visa, even though they aren't "testing" anymore? |
Dude, how old are you? You never saw an American or other job application that asked if you ever used illegal drugs or had mental or physical problems and if so WHAT? Nobody GETS the job if they answer "yes" and start making a list.
Answer NO, and go insane if it comes back positive. Demand a retest. Be very offended. Call them incompetent.
Answering YES will cost you the opportunity. You will be told to find another job. Same goes for any question you give them that may cause any concern to them. And this is true of REAL-world jobs too. If they ask you if you had a history of depression and you take prozac.....YOU ANSWER NO. Speaking of which: How do such people get their "meds" here. I spoke to my coworker about antidepressants and she told me they don't have them here. I spoke to other people and they looked at me like I had 3 heads...."why would someone need a pill like that" they wanted to know.. And what happens if your gov't medical insurance finds out you went to a shrink here because you were depressed or too stressed or whatever.....or asked your regular Dr. for such pills like zanax....I can guess what happens to your job. But I wonder if anyone knows about that stuff.
Oh and as far as drinking and teaching goes, it makes me sick to see bosses and teachers drunk at "company dinners". Totally unprofessional and totally unnecessary. Get drunk in the privacy of your own life, like a pothead would huff a nug. Going out into public and cackling, slurring speech, getting into dramatic arguments and then storming away.... drunken Korean dramas ......and making a scene--- is not what I expect from those who are role models. I would much prefer a down low dank aficionado who keeps it together. Herbal libations are far far far less intoxicating then alcohol, and those that prefer such a small degree of inebriation are far more "jinjee" to me, than those who need to get obliterated and puke outside the galbi restaurant... then cry and threaten to quit....and go run off to drive drunk home. So put that in your bubbler and smoke it ! |
What do you think I meant by "I'm just assuming answering "yes" means you won't even get to the test"?
I'm pretty much just wondering if the left hand knows what the right is doing in this case. |
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Mint
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| For what it's worth, I did not get dt'd to get my visa, but I DID get tested for cannabis for my alien registration. Somebody missed the memo apparently. |
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DrOctagon
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| For what it's worth, I did not get dt'd to get my visa, but I DID get tested for cannabis for my alien registration. Somebody missed the memo apparently. |
Who cares. You have 90 days to get your ARC card, although I don't see why you would have to wait that long even if you smoked the day before you left your home country, unless you were dumb enough to smoke in Korea. Plus, you're paying for the test. One could ask the doctor to exclude the cannabis test from your health check. |
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CPT
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: |
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One more question then.
When you go to get your medical check done, do they just give you the results, and then you take that to immigration for your ARC? So if there is a problem (any problem, really, not just limited to the one being discussed in this thread), is there anything stopping you from just getting tested again until you get a satisfactory result?
I know the tests cost money, and your boss may be putting the pressure on to go get your card, but if you can overlook those factors, is there anything wrong with the scenario I presented above? |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Your surposed to be a role model..... |
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DrOctagon
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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One more question then.
When you go to get your medical check done, do they just give you the results, and then you take that to immigration for your ARC? So if there is a problem (any problem, really, not just limited to the one being discussed in this thread), is there anything stopping you from just getting tested again until you get a satisfactory result?
I know the tests cost money, and your boss may be putting the pressure on to go get your card, but if you can overlook those factors, is there anything wrong with the scenario I presented above? |
Yes, they give you the results and you take them to immigration. Sometimes schools require a copy of the results as well. Also, your co-teacher might go with you, so you'll have to make sure you hold on to the results, not her. If you're really worried, I have an omni-flush pill that I bought before I left that I'm not going to use. I'll sell it to you for $30. I paid $38. |
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Wurmwood
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I've been reading over the thread and it sounds to me like the test is no longer required by immigration, but some places still do it.
I'm getting ready to sign a new contract to stay another year. I'm transferring to a new branch in my company, but my new branch doesn't need me for a couple of weeks after my current contract ends so I'm going home for those two weeks. I was told by my boss that I need a physical for my new contract. Here's my question: Can I get a physical before I leave Korea or does it have to be after I get back? I ask because It'd be nice if I could get the test done in advance and be able to smoke at home. |
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desperation
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Those who know, won't say and those who say, don't know. Welcome to Dave's !
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| The TBPE test STILL EXISTS!!! It is a multi test that covers, CANIBANOIDS, opiates, Narcotics, Amphetamines, and benzanoponines. The SEPARATE herb test was eliminated because it was redundant and expensive. You can get the test before you leave, BUT you need to file for your visa at immigration and stuff here before you go or after you come back You can't give that stuff over to the embassy in your country. THEN you need to do the same exact tests including the TBPE and chest X-ray (yay for cancer) within 90 days after you come back in order to get your ARC card and health insurance. Bring some piss test pills with you and dry out for a 88 days is my suggestion on that. One bad test and it goes in your file and you your visa could be instantly canceled. Well, most likely will be. |
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Samantha
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Jinan-dong Hwaseong
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Sorry if this a repeat....didn't want to wade through seven pages of posts.
I just did the extension on my visa as of Friday 9/19. I read the thing on the immi website that was quoted on the first page saying it wasn't a requirement. I went to Ajou Uni hospital to get the HIV test. Called immi to check what type of documents I needed from the school for the renewal and was informed that I had to have the TBPE/Cabinoid test done as well. I and my co-teacher informed them of what the website said, didn't matter to immi, I still had to wait a week while I went back to Ajou did the urine test and wait for the results. When I went up to immi in Suwon those results were one of the documents added to file for the renewal. |
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