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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the thing, Eagles. You say you like Obama, but then you post anti-Obama stuff. This might be a believable posture if you were posting eloquent and well-reasoned conservative critiques of Obama's position, in which case we could maybe believe that you're an Obama fan who's open-minded enough to give the other side a fair hearing.

The thing is, though, the stuff you post is garbage. I mean, come on. A washed-up Hollywood hunk spewing John Birch rhetoric about creeping communism? That stuff was goofy even its day, let alone in the post-Cold War world. And it's the sort of thing that could only appeal to someone whose willing to believe anything negative about Obama regardless of how credible it is. In other words. someone who is most decidedly NOT an Obama supporter.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:

The thing is, though, the stuff you post is garbage. I mean, come on. A washed-up Hollywood hunk spewing John Birch rhetoric about creeping communism? That stuff was goofy even its day, let alone in the post-Cold War world. And it's the sort of thing that could only appeal to someone whose willing to believe anything negative about Obama regardless of how credible it is. In other words. someone who is most decidedly NOT an Obama supporter.


I dunno. Lukewarm Obama supporters like myself are re-invigorated by this crap. Maybe fiveeagles is trying to bolster Obama's base with such fare.

ROFL. No, I don't believe my own explanation myself, either.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
I promise you that.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh you silly Christians and your "on your death bed" revenge fantasies. I'm still waiting for you to call down upon me the mighty power of your African witches. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tell us again, gramps, how rock 'n' roll is the devil's tool 'n' Elvis should only be filmed above the hips.
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fiveeagles



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Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
I promise you that.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh you silly Christians and your "on your death bed" revenge fantasies. I'm still waiting for you to call down upon me the mighty power of your African witches. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tell us again, gramps, how rock 'n' roll is the devil's tool 'n' Elvis should only be filmed above the hips.


Even though you love to lie and twist my words...know this. I don't want you to go to hell. I won't take any satisfaction in your misery.
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Here's the thing, Eagles. You say you like Obama, but then you post anti-Obama stuff. This might be a believable posture if you were posting eloquent and well-reasoned conservative critiques of Obama's position, in which case we could maybe believe that you're an Obama fan who's open-minded enough to give the other side a fair hearing.

The thing is, though, the stuff you post is garbage. I mean, come on. A washed-up Hollywood hunk spewing John Birch rhetoric about creeping communism? That stuff was goofy even its day, let alone in the post-Cold War world. And it's the sort of thing that could only appeal to someone whose willing to believe anything negative about Obama regardless of how credible it is. In other words. someone who is most decidedly NOT an Obama supporter.


What's wrong with posting a strong critique of his position. Many right wingers think that he will bring America into a socialist country. You can't spin off John Birch...he's more relevant than that. There wouldn't be a huge firestorm around his article if there wasn't.

Here's my dilemma...is he someone who wants to lie about his character to get to power or is he as eloquent and as strong in his faith as he seems. I am trying to look at both and determine which one he is.

Oprah once pandered to the Christian right and is now as New Age as they come. She used the gospel to fit her own agenda. Is Obama doing the same or is he a genuine believer?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
I promise you that.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh you silly Christians and your "on your death bed" revenge fantasies. I'm still waiting for you to call down upon me the mighty power of your African witches. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tell us again, gramps, how rock 'n' roll is the devil's tool 'n' Elvis should only be filmed above the hips.


Even though you love to lie and twist my words...know this. I don't want you to go to hell. I won't take any satisfaction in your misery.


No one believes you. Demophobe used to stroke himself silly every night imagining the wrath god will strike upon me for making fun of his silly bronze aged sky god. You've tried to raise funds to have a witch kill or maim me.
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
I promise you that.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh you silly Christians and your "on your death bed" revenge fantasies. I'm still waiting for you to call down upon me the mighty power of your African witches. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tell us again, gramps, how rock 'n' roll is the devil's tool 'n' Elvis should only be filmed above the hips.


Even though you love to lie and twist my words...know this. I don't want you to go to hell. I won't take any satisfaction in your misery.


No one believes you. Demophobe used to stroke himself silly every night imagining the wrath god will strike upon me for making fun of his silly bronze aged sky god. You've tried to raise funds to have a witch kill or maim me.


haha...you chickened out, remember?

Anywho...it's the power of the cross that allows me to hope that you will be a friend rather than a hater. I have no animosity towards you...I only pity you. You are obviously one unhappy and bitter individual that likes to spew poison unto people.

Like I said, one day your poison will catch up to you.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
I promise you that.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh you silly Christians and your "on your death bed" revenge fantasies. I'm still waiting for you to call down upon me the mighty power of your African witches. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tell us again, gramps, how rock 'n' roll is the devil's tool 'n' Elvis should only be filmed above the hips.


Even though you love to lie and twist my words...know this. I don't want you to go to hell. I won't take any satisfaction in your misery.


No one believes you. Demophobe used to stroke himself silly every night imagining the wrath god will strike upon me for making fun of his silly bronze aged sky god. You've tried to raise funds to have a witch kill or maim me.


haha...you chickened out, remember?

Anywho...it's the power of the cross that allows me to hope that you will be a friend rather than a hater. I have no animosity towards you...I only pity you. You are obviously one unhappy and bitter individual that likes to spew poison unto people.

Like I said, one day your poison will catch up to you.


Any time you want to call upon a witch that's fine with me, tough guy. And I'm a happy person. I just don't like bigots like you. Tell us again how a 12 year old born in the hills of Pakistan and a faithful muslim is going to hell because he can't get to a PC bang to learn about Jesus.
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Czarjorge wrote:

Socialized education and medicine would also go a long way to increasing the health and education of our citizens which would then increase our prowess in a global economy.


Education?
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Ya-ta Boy



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Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Education?


I don't know if this is what Czar was refering to, but...

Most public schools are supported mainly by the their local community. The effect is that schools in rich areas with lots of industries and rich homes have the money to support a higher level of education--more teachers, smaller classes, new books, better all-around facilities. Poor areas simply don't have the money.

(Money is not the only solution, but it is a significant factor in the mix.)
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That makes sense then.
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MM2, what exactly is bigotry?

Here is what I said;

I said many Muslim man will not enter Heaven because some suppress the truth. For example, an evangelist will go into a Islamic region and will try to preach the gospel, but will be killed by an extremists. Which unfortunately happens every day.

So
1. Who is being intolerant? The Evangelist trying to bring the gospel or the extremists who kills the evangelist?
2. And even though some of the people don't hear the gospel, because of intolerant forces around them; God is still able to supercede those forces and bring visions and dreams of salvation to the lost people. He has also created within creation and our hearts the ability to know him. The gospel should only confirm what we already know in our hearts.

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities�his eternal power and divine nature�have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

So what MLK intolerant or bigotted? Is Obama intolerant or bigotted? They both believe in the same gospel as I do.

I think you hate me because of this;

3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood[a] it.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the young boy in a hill tribe in Pakistan gets to hear a jesus pusher when exactly? But he's still going to hell because, as you claimed previously, he can't get to a PC Bang.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
And the young boy in a hill tribe in Pakistan gets to hear a jesus pusher when exactly? But he's still going to hell because, as you claimed previously, he can't get to a PC Bang.


Jesus/God works in mysterious ways. Maybe the Holy Spirit should have a talk with them.
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
And the young boy in a hill tribe in Pakistan gets to hear a jesus pusher when exactly? But he's still going to hell because, as you claimed previously, he can't get to a PC Bang.


Right. You can't win the argument so you make up lies.
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