| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
ffl007
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
|
 Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:38 am Post subject: Koreans forget... |
 |
|
Does everyone see how popular Sony products are here?
Or even the SM5 (Basically a Nissan Maxima)
Lexus for the people who can afford them. Also all the crap merchandise made in China? Chances are You own at least 5 items made in China.
The natives forget how much misery these two countries placed on Korea.
Facts
Japan Then: Colonized Korea and tried to totally wipe out Korea's traditions, language and culture. They used thousands of Korean females as sex slaves during WWII.
Japan Now: Japanese school texts are written in such a way as to make Japan look like a perfect neighbor. There are no references to the crimes commited by the past governments.
China Then: They sent so called 100,000 volunteers to overrun Korea during the Korean war.
China Now: No freedom of speech, constant relgious persecution, technology theft the list goes on (China welcomes companies with open arms, after a few years the knowhow, ideas and technology are duplicated for a fraction of the cost. Thereby the original company can't compete and is forced to close down. Do some searching on the net there are many documented articles) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 2:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
That was then, this is now.
Maybe us Americans should not buy Japanese and German products because of WW2. No, because times change, and so do people. It has nothing to do with forgetting, and everything to do with moving on |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ffl007
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 2:15 am Post subject: To:mishlert |
|
|
| I think you need to reread the post. I gave two examples of each country then and now. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 2:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Are you suggesting trade sanctions? It's not even clear if they work to change the current behaviour of countries ( see Iraq ), so what good would they be for something that happened ages ago, pure punishment? I don't think Korea is big enough to hurt Japan or China by withdrawing trade, and what exactly would it achieve? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Koreans forget... |
|
|
| ffl007 wrote: |
| The natives forget how much misery these two countries placed on Korea. |
I can only assume that you've never brought these topics up with Koreans. Trust me, they haven't forgotten anything. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Homer
Guest
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
ffl007,
According to that logic: No more trading with China for any nation.
No more buying petrolium from the Middle East.
No more trading with these nations...
Wow thats revolutionary my man... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ThreeDogNight
Joined: 30 May 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
| This isn't all true, FFL. Korea is just starting to open up to Japan, and probably has the worst protectionist economy in regards to trade in the world. The Japanese products that might be made in China or Chinese products altogether, unless coming from Taiwan, are probably not trustworthy and are actually a part of a large network of piracy that's robbing consumers blind. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
.....
Last edited by little mixed girl on Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:39 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Koreans forget... |
|
|
| ffl007 wrote: |
| Japan Now: Japanese school texts are written in such a way as to make Japan look like a perfect neighbor. There are no references to the crimes commited by the past governments. |
Do you have any other examples except for the one book that caused a huge uproar a couple years ago because the book basically gave a one page glossed-over account of Japan in Korea? Please note that the media, as a general rule, forgot to mention that this one book was written for use with mentally handicapped students and the entire book was written in such a fashion.
The regular books go into greater detail over known events and some raised issues.
| Quote: |
| China Then: They sent so called 100,000 volunteers to overrun Korea during the Korean war. |
You're forgetting the more than a million conscripts who were shipped over against their will to overrun Korea during the Korean war.
| Quote: |
| China Now: No freedom of speech, constant relgious persecution, technology theft the list goes on (China welcomes companies with open arms, after a few years the knowhow, ideas and technology are duplicated for a fraction of the cost. Thereby the original company can't compete and is forced to close down. Do some searching on the net there are many documented articles) |
My research shows that companies have done that, and are sued on a regular basis because of it. It's software duplication that's a far more serious problem than patent infringement or hardware duplication. But ya, China is a messed up clusterbang. But they are taking steps in the right direction and have for a few years now. While they are still nuts over Taiwan and Internet censoring, they have made nice sounds by saying that they are continually overhauling the electoral system in China and slowly increasing the number of government jobs that are elected and are hoping to have an actual elected federal government by the next generation. In the end, maybe everything will be all right.
I understand the point you are trying to make, but your underlying statements of facts are flawed, you're ignoring how Japan has already paid Korea a cash settlement over all that has happened, treaties have been signed, and ignoring the many positive impacts Japan had on Korea. If I had a fight with Steve in the sixth grade that he started, and then he apologized the next day and bought me an ice cream cone, should I still hate him forever? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Joe Thanks
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Koreans forget... |
|
|
| Quote: |
Does everyone see how popular Sony products are here?
Or even the SM5 (Basically a Nissan Maxima)
Lexus for the people who can afford them. Also all the crap merchandise made in China? Chances are You own at least 5 items made in China.
The natives forget how much misery these two countries placed on Korea. |
How lovely! A Christmas troll!
Joe wil layeth the smacketh down upon ye ONCE - and you're best to let it sink into your protoplasm:
YOU'RE WRONG.
KOREANS HAVE HARMED THEMSELVES WORSE THAN ANY OTHER FOREIGN NATION IN ITS HISTORY - AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO TO THIS DAY.
KOREA IS KOREA'S OWN WORST ENEMY.
KOREA HAD HURT THE WORLD MORE THAN SOMONE LIKE YOU WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE.
You'll find little sympathy here.
Class dismissed.
You can now ride the special bus for all eternity.
Joe |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 6:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm picking up a "bizarro cpa" vibe here.
unrelated: I think I have in ingrown toenail.
Ouch!
Starkles*_* |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Koreans forget... |
|
|
| ffl007 wrote: |
Or even the SM5 (Basically a Nissan Maxima)
|
So you think a korean made car (Samsung) has similar styling to a Japanese car... big freakin deal..  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Lexus is the biggest selling imported car here in Korea |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bjonothan
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 2:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I don't even know why you guys would bother to answer someone who sounds like he hates the place, and has got most of his facts wrong. Go and educate yourself a bit better and if you don't like it here PI$$ off!!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
matko
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 8:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
| bjonothan wrote: |
| I don't even know why you guys would bother to answer someone who sounds like he hates the place, and has got most of his facts wrong. Go and educate yourself a bit better and if you don't like it here PI$$ off!!! |
Sorry, seems to me the guy loves Korea and hates everybody else. Did I read the op wrong? He was saying that the whole country has been wronged by the world. S/he obviously feels an affinity for the place. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
