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[Unposter]

Ask the question if you must but the answer seems simple enough. I'd waste my time asking others.

More and more women are finding there way to the math and sciences. A history of it being closed to them has had its effect.

What subjects are not particularly accessable to men? Why is that? It would be a better question to ask in my opinion. Hopefully it will lead one to realize that there is nothing inherently male or female about the arts and sciences.

[bacasper]

Neuroanatomical sex differences are not mere conjectures but can be and have been measured.

Since certain areas of the brain are responsible for differing abilities, there are corresponding sex differences in these abilities. One should always add the caveat that these are averages and that there will always be individual members of one sex who may surpass members of the opposite sex in an area usually predominated by the latter.

For example, recent differences have been found in the supra-chiasmatic nucleus, the interstitial nuclei of the anterior hypothalamus, and the anterior commissure between heterosexual females and heterosexual males with homosexual males falling in between. (There were not enough homosexual females in the study to make a conclusion.)

These differences are hypothesized to be due to the effects of intrauterine testosterone, as mateomiguel mentioned. In fact, the embryo develops according to the principle, "Eve first, then Adam." That is, it begins development as female but a burst of testosterone from the primordial testes at a certain point of development causes both masculinization and defeminization in males.

Similarly, there are developmental neuroanatomical responses to testosterone which can result in postnatal differences in abilities, and hence in certain subject areas.

[Justin Hale]

[aboxofchocolates]

The OP merely asked (a) is space generally of no interest to women and girls? and (b) if so, can it be defensibly argued that space (and other subjects perhaps, but space in particular here) is a masculine subject and there are, therefore, such things as largely masculine subjects?[quote]

To answer your question, OP, no. Space is sometimes of interest to some girls and women. How you've phrased your question is a little too closed. What's that falacy called, the "special case" falacy? I'll look it up if you care to argue my next assertion. Also, I am using the word intelegence and assuming it accompanies interest. This is what you have to consider when you are examining social trends on this subject:

There are women whose spacial intelegence is excellent.
There are women whose spacial intelegence is good.
There are women whose spacial intelegence is poor.
There are many environmental factors (biological and social) that influence this intelegence.
Many of these factors are not related to a) gender or b) heredity.

Have you ever read a credible source who was able to quantify these factors? Mostly you just get variations of the nature/nurture argument.

That being said, the assertion sex (not gender, that's cultural) influences intelegence is a positive assertion and so the burden of proof lies in the supporter's court.

I dislike the whole sex plays a role in determining intelegence, because- coincidentally enough- those subjects which men are though to have a better ability to grasp also happen to be those subjects which lead to better paying careers garnering higher prestige. Long story short, I'm worried it limits my chances in the world. But I (grudgingly) welcome any truly constructive arguments proving this to be true. Better to be prepared in a harmless setting.

sorry if i'm a little hard to read. I have been drinking.

[Justin Hale]

I don't understand why the subject of intelligence needs to be introduced at all.

There is no burden of proof lying in my court regarding "the assertion sex (not gender, that's cultural) influences intelligence" because that claim has not been made.

[Big_Bird]

I'm feeling particularly intelegent today!

[Cheonmunka]

Basically what most people have said, and what I believe, is that certain subjects have been conditioned to suit males and others conditioned to suit females.
In all averages, women make same skilled mechanics as their male counterparts and reversed, males make same skilled kindy teachers as their female counterparts.

I see no great mind-blowing revelations in this.

[kermo]

[Big_Bird]

What are little girls made of? Sugar and spice, and all things nice - that's waht little girls are made of.

And boys? Snakes and snails and puppy-dogs' tails...