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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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 Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: Arriving in 2 weeks - Where's the jobs at? |
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I've got all my documents and will be flying into Seoul in two weeks to get a job and an E-2.
It's too late for recruiters so I've settled with going direct to interviews once in Korea and negotiating hard. I've sent off my application to CDI, GDA Junior, Avalon and Korvia... can anyone suggest other such organisations?
Otherwise, how do I bypass recruiters and find out about the perfect Hagwon / PS job in-country? Are there English job recruiter offices in Seoul? Or do I just need to Google lots more and shift through the rubbish...?
Any help much appreciated.... |
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oskinny1
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Arriving in 2 weeks - Where's the jobs at? |
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I hope that I am wrong for your sake, but aren't the newish regulations saying that you must get your visa in your home country? If that is the case, then it looks like you will be flying back home to get it.
Why is it too late for a recruiter? They can offer you jobs and then you can go to the school and check them out. |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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"newish regulations", from when? I believe it's possible like losing_touch - http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=131723
Recruiters don't seem to like visa runs, and if they gave me the information there's no reason either me or the institute should pay them because after that they're not involved at all. |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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You can't even get in the country with only a one-way ticket. The check-in at my airport in the USA almost didnt even let me check in. I had to show the agent my passport and visa, and even then she had a look of doubt on her face....... I think she just wasnt used to actually being wrong....
From my understanding, just popping over and getting a job is no longer an option (if it ever was). You need the E2 or other visa, not to mention an interview at the embassy or consulate if this is your first time. |
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afsjesse
Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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If you have not had an E2 Prior to your upcoming trip, than you cannot get a job here. This is the new law. You will need to go to the closest Korean Consulate in your country for an interview. The only way this is avoided is if you have been here before the new regulatios were in place.
For example, I arrived in October last year and I am exempt from it. I need to follow all of the other regulations except for this one.
I recommend you refund your ticket or change the flight date until you have a job processed with immigration.
Good Luck |
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oskinny1
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Recruiters don't seem to like visa runs, and if they gave me the information there's no reason either me or the institute should pay them because after that they're not involved at all. |
You will NEVER have to pay a recruiter, but they will help introduce you to schools (who do pay the recruiter). If you have a way of coming to Korea and then getting a visa, that's great and please post about it.
Your rational about payment is the same as saying that no one needs to pay a real estate agent because once you find your house you can just deal with the owners. That isn't the way the world works. |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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"newish regulations", from when? I believe it's possible like losing_touch - http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=131723
Recruiters don't seem to like visa runs, and if they gave me the information there's no reason either me or the institute should pay them because after that they're not involved at all. |
Yes, I did it! It worked out just fine for me in Bangkok. I have never even been to Korea. I have been to the airport for transit only.
As for the one-way ticket, I am bringing my wife. She is Thai. We are coming on a one-way ticket. Sure, I have a visa. She has nothing. I have a letter from my boss confirming that she will stay with me and I have a job. We have our marriage documents. I was told that she can convert the visa exemption to a dependent visa in Korea. My boss confirmed this with immigration. It should be fun when we leave! |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| So no consulate interview at all, loosing touch? |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| So no consulate interview at all, loosing touch? |
Nope, there was nothing required. 1530 baht, photo, and application. The E-2 was issued! |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Your rational about payment is the same as saying that no one needs to pay a real estate agent because once you find your house you can just deal with the owners. |
Houses aren't free agents like schools (houses have to be sold by an estate agent). Recruiter gives me details, I contact them independently, school says recruiter had nothing to do with it - recruiter doesn't get paid. I will persist but I'm sure they're not very keen.
There have been discussions about the one-way ticket. People have done it before, sometimes using a waiver with the airline. I'm flying from India; I think they'll be a bit less savvy.
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| If you have not had an E2 Prior to your upcoming trip, than you cannot get a job here. This is the new law. |
Can you cite from when - I'm pretty sure losing_touch is right on this one.
Any ideas with original question? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| Your rational about payment is the same as saying that no one needs to pay a real estate agent because once you find your house you can just deal with the owners. |
Houses aren't free agents like schools (houses have to be sold by an estate agent). Recruiter gives me details, I contact them independently, school says recruiter had nothing to do with it - recruiter doesn't get paid. I will persist but I'm sure they're not very keen.
There have been discussions about the one-way ticket. People have done it before, sometimes using a waiver with the airline. I'm flying from India; I think they'll be a bit less savvy.
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| If you have not had an E2 Prior to your upcoming trip, than you cannot get a job here. This is the new law. |
Can you cite from when - I'm pretty sure losing_touch is right on this one.
Any ideas with original question? |
Any idea of what honesty is? |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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| Your rational about payment is the same as saying that no one needs to pay a real estate agent because once you find your house you can just deal with the owners. |
Houses aren't free agents like schools (houses have to be sold by an estate agent). Recruiter gives me details, I contact them independently, school says recruiter had nothing to do with it - recruiter doesn't get paid. I will persist but I'm sure they're not very keen.
There have been discussions about the one-way ticket. People have done it before, sometimes using a waiver with the airline. I'm flying from India; I think they'll be a bit less savvy.
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| If you have not had an E2 Prior to your upcoming trip, than you cannot get a job here. This is the new law. |
Can you cite from when - I'm pretty sure losing_touch is right on this one.
Any ideas with original question? |
I'm pretty sure he's wrong, or got incredibly lucky.
There were huge changes in immitration, starting in November, to get the low lifes and degenerates out of Korea. All legitimate new people have to go to consulates or Embassies in their home countries for interviews. So just deciding to pop on over with a one-way ticket is asking for problems somewhere along the way. Maybe if you tried to research the legitimate and accepted way of coming instead of looking for every shortcut and trick in the book, you'd see these easier. |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| Your rational about payment is the same as saying that no one needs to pay a real estate agent because once you find your house you can just deal with the owners. |
Houses aren't free agents like schools (houses have to be sold by an estate agent). Recruiter gives me details, I contact them independently, school says recruiter had nothing to do with it - recruiter doesn't get paid. I will persist but I'm sure they're not very keen.
There have been discussions about the one-way ticket. People have done it before, sometimes using a waiver with the airline. I'm flying from India; I think they'll be a bit less savvy.
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| If you have not had an E2 Prior to your upcoming trip, than you cannot get a job here. This is the new law. |
Can you cite from when - I'm pretty sure losing_touch is right on this one.
Any ideas with original question? |
I'm pretty sure he's wrong, or got incredibly lucky.
There were huge changes in immitration, starting in November, to get the low lifes and degenerates out of Korea. All legitimate new people have to go to consulates or Embassies in their home countries for interviews. So just deciding to pop on over with a one-way ticket is asking for problems somewhere along the way. Maybe if you tried to research the legitimate and accepted way of coming instead of looking for every shortcut and trick in the book, you'd see these easier. |
Read about it yourself: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=129668&highlight=
It is not luck. I am not wrong. The law is what it is. Why don't you read the law yourself. If your degree is verified, you can obtain your first E-2 in another country. The law is documented in the other post. It is not a shortcut. It is not a trick. It is the law. |
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gteacher
Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: Ghost in the machine
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| It is not luck. I am not wrong. The law is what it is. Why don't you read the law yourself. If your degree is verified, you can obtain your first E-2 in another country. The law is documented in the other post. It is not a shortcut. It is not a trick. It is the law. |
100% correct. As long as you get your degree verified and you have a clean record with Korean Immigration, it is possible to get an E2 visa from almost anywhere. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: |
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If you fly here first, and THEN get the job, you will not get your flight to Korea reimbursed. They will just pay for a visa run to Japan.
FYI. |
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