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inseoul

Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: w8,000,000 / month anyone?? |
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On 2.5millon/ month I always seemed to run out or coudlnt save much.
Privates were a hassle and too much running around. They say 40-50,000 per hour but it always took 3 hours once you got there and back etc....waste of time.
How to acheive 8mill/ month?
Leave Korea and get into something decent back home.
Miss Seoul sometimes on the weekends, but when I get those emails for jobs and private jobs in Korea (which they refuse to stop sending me), it makes me glad I am no longer trapped in that cage. Salaries are the same. The job is always the same. Rights as foreigners never increased much.
Finally, the equivalent of $8,000 USD per month, at home, no more running around, no more teaching.
Not to gloat, but advise- Korean conditions for teachers (and actually teachers anywhere) do not change much, and should never be about the money. Lifestyle and teaching- sure.
If you jumped to this post then chances are you do lean towards the money- and the best chance you have to recognize that is at home, where you have contracts and opportunities, not to mention the language and culture advantages.
Want 8mill / month? Go where you can sign contracts that can be enforced. |
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tigerbluekitty
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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True. The best jobs are still at home.
Most of the Korean students I taught english to had a valuable skill or trade. Sometimes I feel like the Koreans want to learn english so they can steal jobs away from Americans in the future.
Don't like that feeling. Want to get out of here.
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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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So are you inseoul or outofseoul? |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: w8,000,000 / month anyone?? |
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inseoul wrote: |
How to acheive 8mill/ month?
Leave Korea and get into something decent back home.
Finally, the equivalent of $8,000 USD per month, at home, no more running around, no more teaching.
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If people on this board could make $8K a month in their home country, I somehow doubt they would be in Korea right now.
As much as I'd love to come to Korea, after visiting the country and doing my research, I've come to the conclusion that I would take a six figure hit to my salary if I were to leave the US. So I've started lining up the students for next year. . .  |
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nolegirl
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: w8,000,000 / month anyone?? |
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inseoul wrote: |
On 2.5millon/ month I always seemed to run out or coudlnt save much.
Privates were a hassle and too much running around. They say 40-50,000 per hour but it always took 3 hours once you got there and back etc....waste of time.
How to acheive 8mill/ month?
Leave Korea and get into something decent back home.
Miss Seoul sometimes on the weekends, but when I get those emails for jobs and private jobs in Korea (which they refuse to stop sending me), it makes me glad I am no longer trapped in that cage. Salaries are the same. The job is always the same. Rights as foreigners never increased much.
Finally, the equivalent of $8,000 USD per month, at home, no more running around, no more teaching.
Not to gloat, but advise- Korean conditions for teachers (and actually teachers anywhere) do not change much, and should never be about the money. Lifestyle and teaching- sure.
If you jumped to this post then chances are you do lean towards the money- and the best chance you have to recognize that is at home, where you have contracts and opportunities, not to mention the language and culture advantages.
Want 8mill / month? Go where you can sign contracts that can be enforced. |
Lets break this down
Back Home in S Florida here were monthy expenses
Rent - $800 a month with roomate
Car Payment - $250
Car Insurance $80 - mine was much higher but we will avg
Gas - $300 at $5.02 a gallon when I left
At 2.5 working 5-10 M/F 4-10 T/Th and Wed 7-9 for an extra $160 on my pay weekly.
Plus whatever I feel like doing during the day like going to the bank
I work less, my job is easy, I am in a fun country close to other fun countries and lets face it, the US is going in the sh*tter.
Many people can save here you just spent all your money on hookers. haha jk
I agree with the contracts being unsafe but your in a foreign country and those are risks you have to take. Stuff happens, I was fully aware of the risks coming over and how I could get screwed, most people do and still take that chance. Some come out OK others don't. Some people in the US love their job others hate it. Lifes a b*tch
So what do you do, sit behind a desk for 10 hours a day, woohoo!!! Actually, if you like your job good for you but you are not in the majority. I would rather take my chances here b/c I am having fun experiencing another country. Plain and simple
And I am partially here for the money b/c I can't run of to Thailand with debt but now I am here I am really glad I made this my first country b/c everything about this country is hysterical, the people are so silly or maybe I am I dunno but I like it here, everyday is an adventure!!!! |
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maddog
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Even as an experienced maintenance engineer with a degree, I wasn't earning that. I'm from the UK, so $8,000 p/m equates to GBP48,000 p/a.
If I could get that much in the UK, there's no f4uking way I'd be here.
Last time I was home, I was offered GBP23,000 a year.
Subtract tax, national insurance, rent, council tax, car (practically a necessity in the UK in my line of work), fuel, road-tax, insurance and maintenance, and monthly bills. Suddenly there's not a lot left.
I know from co-workers that living cost are far less in the US than in the UK, so $96,000 a year would be a LOT of money in the US. Dare I say it would make one high-middle class.
I seriously doubt that any of the people reading this could go back to the US and get that kind of money. If they could, they wouldn't be here to begin with.
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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: Re: w8,000,000 / month anyone?? |
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nolegirl wrote: |
I work less, my job is easy, I am in a fun country close to other fun countries and lets face it, the US is going in the sh*tter. |
Not yet. I have hope still. It's only going in the shitter because GWB has been sitting on it for so long. |
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DCJames

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Korea is good for recent grads to pay off loans. Older people in Korea are creepy. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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tigerbluekitty wrote: |
True. The best jobs are still at home.
Most of the Korean students I taught english to had a valuable skill or trade. Sometimes I feel like the Koreans want to learn english so they can steal jobs away from Americans in the future.
Don't like that feeling. Want to get out of here. |
So go, nobody's stopping you. Gosh I simply cannot stand people who continue to whine about how they'd rather be somewhere else time and time again.
So if the best jobs are at home, I'm sure it would be more constructive to go pursue them than lament about being in Korea instead. |
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orosee

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: |
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DCJames wrote: |
Korea is good for recent grads to pay off loans. Older people in Korea are creepy. |
Not sure what to say there...
Anyway I just received a praise brochure from HQ, they have received a "top employer 2008 for engineers" award, and they were listing salary ranges...
Uni graduate, 45,000 Euros a year, that's 16% more than what I got as a graduate for the same company 15 years ago... plus they pay A LOT more taxes and cost of living than I had to. Especially since all shops upped their prices when the DM changed to Euro.
I don't think salary levels in USA and Europe can be directly compared, but an 8,000 dollar salary is definitely not that easy to get back home. Not to mention the important details such as zero taxes. You give away 30-40% of your income before you even see it.
You don't need to be an ESL teacher to enjoy the fruits of being an immigrant worker  |
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orosee

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Yaya wrote: |
tigerbluekitty wrote: |
True. The best jobs are still at home.
Most of the Korean students I taught english to had a valuable skill or trade. Sometimes I feel like the Koreans want to learn english so they can steal jobs away from Americans in the future.
Don't like that feeling. Want to get out of here. |
So go, nobody's stopping you. Gosh I simply cannot stand people who continue to whine about how they'd rather be somewhere else time and time again.
So if the best jobs are at home, I'm sure it would be more constructive to go pursue them than lament about being in Korea instead. |
Quite right, I remember from the "rich expat" topic that people were interested in a career as a million-a-year investment banker. Certainly these jobs and better ones are out there, the problem is always how to get one.
Clearly migration is all about moving to where the better conditions are. If there'd be a pot of gold under my bed I wouldn't even get up in the morning. |
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seoulteacher
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:58 am Post subject: Re: w8,000,000 / month anyone?? |
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nolegirl wrote: |
...everything about this country is hysterical, the people are so silly or maybe I am I dunno but I like it here, everyday is an adventure!!!! |
HaHaHaHa!
Nolegirl, you've got me smilin'!
But you know, you may have hit the nail on the head (or, at least, one of the nails, or one of the heads) as to how to enjoy Korea: appreciate it for the 'other worldliness' of it all; Lewis Carroll Land, and the livin's easy!
And when you get to The End, that's it, just exit stage left for home pastures, or on to other lands; Cappadocia comes to mind..  |
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aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008 Location: Down by the river
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Save your money and go to law school. Though I heard from some lawyers that it's a job that can suck. But the pay is secure.
Personally I made 45k a year in my first year as a teacher in the USA (I have a lot of grad school and the pay scale is determined by that). However the stress of the job drove me here, and I'm actually much happier, though I make less. |
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nolegirl
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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aka Dave wrote: |
Save your money and go to law school. Though I heard from some lawyers that it's a job that can suck. But the pay is secure.
Personally I made 45k a year in my first year as a teacher in the USA (I have a lot of grad school and the pay scale is determined by that). However the stress of the job drove me here, and I'm actually much happier, though I make less. |
Lawyers are a dime a dozen now. I don't feel like chasing ambulances all day!! That profession has gone in the shitter b/c there are so many, unless of course you go to good school. The most boring job on the planet has to be IP lawyer, I would die!!!
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And when you get to The End, that's it, just exit stage left for home pastures, or on to other lands; Cappadocia comes to mind.. |
Wheres Cappadocia, seoulteacher??? It sounds marvelous, simply marvelous!! |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Why are folks always chasing something bigger, better, or more? Be happy with what you have because it's all that's guaranteed. Goals are fine but you have to take the time to appreciate what you've got right now. |
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