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The case for not supporting Obama
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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the last year might not have been paradise but nearlyh all of the strategic problems the US faces now are because Khomeni came to power in Iran.



Noted. Blame Ike:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That caption on the bottom of mises new avatar is really vile.

Obama/Biden
Osama bin Laden
Coincidence?............... Fox News

Some poster put it up the other day and I ignored it, not knowing it went any farther than some crank's head. Now that I know it was broadcast all over the country....well, just vile. That's all.



(I re-edited this post to make it closer to the original. It didn't come out the first time the way I typed it.)


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agentX



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
That caption on the bottom of mises new avatar is really vile. Obama/Biden
Osama bin Laden
Coincidence Fox News

Some poster put it up the other day and I ignored it, not knowing it went any farther than some crank's head. Now that I know it was broadcast all over the country....well, just vile. That's all.


If you think that is vile , take a look at the latest McCain campaign ad.
http://www.fox14tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8912513
It has Obama in a crowd shot, with the words "hang" displayed.
Of course it really says 'change' but the ad covers up the C and the E.

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Craig Paul Roberts is a 9-11 conspiracy theorist.

He also used to work for Reagan. That's your crowd, JOO.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. That one is vile and sleazy, too.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentX wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
That caption on the bottom of mises new avatar is really vile. Obama/Biden
Osama bin Laden
Coincidence Fox News

Some poster put it up the other day and I ignored it, not knowing it went any farther than some crank's head. Now that I know it was broadcast all over the country....well, just vile. That's all.


If you think that is vile , take a look at the latest McCain campaign ad.
http://www.fox14tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8912513
It has Obama in a crowd shot, with the words "hang" displayed.
Of course it really says 'change' but the ad covers up the C and the E.

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Craig Paul Roberts is a 9-11 conspiracy theorist.

He also used to work for Reagan. That's your crowd, JOO.




Well Pat Buccanan used to be close to Reagan. Now his views are closer to yours than mine.

PS voted for Clinton 2x and Gore once.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Obama is probably a sincere and nice guy. A great speaker he probably would make a decent peace time president. but he doesn't have any plan to gain the strategic edge over the enemy . Negations are unlikely to be
successful unless the US has the strategic advantage

That the case against Obama

In his own words.


http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=COl4soeox6Y


http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E&feature=related


How to deal with nuclear Iran. This will do the trick once and for all .


http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=MWJw8Wn3jpk


Obama's unwillingness to invest in stuff that really would scare the enemy shows that he is not the up to being a war time president.

sorry
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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McCain's 5-1/2 years in a N. Vietnamese prison camp is comparable to anything Obama has been through?

Obama wins by a mile on projected POLICIES.

According to whom?


Being a POW must be a horrendous experience but in no way prepares you for being president. Am I missing something? Military experience is a positive thing, but Bush didn't have any and Kerry did. For that matter, neither did Lincoln (although his didn't amount to anything). I'm not denigrating it, but unless it is at the highest levels, it has nothing to do with preparing someone for governing a country. The presidency is not some plum to be handed out simply for past military services.

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One advantage of having a war veteran for president of the worlds most powerful army is that they may be more aware of the human cost of their decisions to go to war.

At least that would be the hope.


I think Buffet said it best:

The only way to get a candiate who's perfect is to run yourself, and I have no intention of doing that... the test is between two people... the most you can hope for is two people of the highest quality, who are public minded... I think we have those two people, but I much prefer Obama.

That's my memory of an interview on CNBC. The full interview is on the website and is good viewing.
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mises



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
That caption on the bottom of mises new avatar is really vile.

Obama/Biden
Osama bin Laden
Coincidence?............... Fox News

Some poster put it up the other day and I ignored it, not knowing it went any farther than some crank's head. Now that I know it was broadcast all over the country....well, just vile. That's all.



(I re-edited this post to make it closer to the original. It didn't come out the first time the way I typed it.)


http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/08/9461_fox_is_amazing.html
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Justin Hale



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama has no chance of winning anyway. Many American voters would never put a cross next to a black guy unless it was on fire.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Many American voters would never


But more would. Yes, there are still bigots and racists around, but fewer than before. It's my guess a lot fewer. Someone did a poll asking if people would vote for a black man and something around 12% said they never would. Some other people would have lied rather than admit it, so maybe 15%?

It's enough to sway an election. Only a fool would discount it altogether. On the other hand, no need to exaggerate it either.

mises, interesting link. Maybe Fox News is 1% less vile than I expected.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
That caption on the bottom of mises new avatar is really vile.

Obama/Biden
Osama bin Laden
Coincidence?............... Fox News

Yes, but you must admit many people consider Obama sin-laden.


Twisted Evil
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
sin-laden.


Twisted Evil


Question

Me, I'd feel better about the man if I ever saw him kick back and have drink and chill ... pretty intense and purpose-driven, you ask me.
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