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Obtaining TESOL certification in Korea

 
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Starla



Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: Obtaining TESOL certification in Korea Reply with quote

I've thinking about what I'd like to do while I'm in Korea and one of them is get my TESOL certification. Teaching English in the U.S. after my stint in Korea is a possibility once I get enough experience. Are there places in Korea where I could obtain this certification? If so, where and how much would the cost be? Thanks.
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Tobias



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: I've thought about that angle Reply with quote

I've thought about that angle as well, the 'going back to the US and teaching in a school there' thing.

But I know the only job I'd be able to get teaching is the job no one else wants. You know the kind of teaching gig I'm talking about, too...schools where students carry weapons to school if there are no metal detectors. Schools where students will stab you or worse as soon as look at you. Schools where the students know full well they are in the designated loser bin and will never have great prospects. Certainly no prospects that would serve as a reward for concerted study effort.

Nope, you won't see me doing the teaching thing until I have the cred firepower to keep me out of the crappy jobs that are easy to get. They're easy to get because they SUCK and nearly no one wants to do those jobs. And if anyone is doing them, it's not for long. In other words, a simple cert won't even come close to being good enough. I won't be teaching in the US until I get the master's degree in education, which is iffy at best with me right now. If I get to teach middle-class white students, sure. If I get to teach community college or even university students, sure. If I have to settle for a school on the corner of Normandie and Florence in Compton, forget it.

You may feel the same way, or you may not.
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rumdiary



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What states actually allow you to teach with TESOL certification? I thought most required a masters or a teaching credential? Does TESOL certification open up doors to teaching in any other countries?
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Starla



Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: I've thought about that angle Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:
I've thought about that angle as well, the 'going back to the US and teaching in a school there' thing.

But I know the only job I'd be able to get teaching is the job no one else wants. You know the kind of teaching gig I'm talking about, too...schools where students carry weapons to school if there are no metal detectors. Schools where students will stab you or worse as soon as look at you. Schools where the students know full well they are in the designated loser bin and will never have great prospects. Certainly no prospects that would serve as a reward for concerted study effort.

Nope, you won't see me doing the teaching thing until I have the cred firepower to keep me out of the crappy jobs that are easy to get. They're easy to get because they SUCK and no one wants to do those jobs. And if they are doing them, it's not for long. In other words, a simple cert won't even come close to being good enough. I won't be teaching in the US until I get the master's degree in education, which is iffy at best with me right now. If I get to teach middle-class white students, sure. If I get to teach community college or even university students, sure. If I have to settle for a school on the corner of Normandie and Florence in Compton, forget it.


I was just thinking about teaching in an ESL school in my city...not in a public school. I know how public school students in the U.S. are so yeah, I've always said that I refuse to teach American kids. But ESL students in a language school in New York is a different matter. Just trying to see what the possibilities are since I don't want to go back to my career in finance when I return and I don't know if I have what it takes to spend endless years in Korea. As far as I know, I don't need a Master's and just need certification and experience. I'm thinking I will really miss a lot of things about American life somewhere down the line and I have my family here so I have to prepare myself to work in the U.S. when I come back from Korea.
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Starla



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rumdiary wrote:
What states actually allow you to teach with TESOL certification? I thought most required a masters or a teaching credential? Does TESOL certification open up doors to teaching in any other countries?


Maybe I haven't done enough research but I got the impression that I don't need a Master's. I may be wrong but here's a link I found that made me think so:

http://education-portal.com/articles/ESL_Teacher_-_Education_Requirements_for_Teaching_ESL_Classes.html
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Starla



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a random ESL teaching posting for a position in my city:

http://www.geosnyc.com/esl-teaching-jobs-new-york.html

Am I missing something?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't get a teaching job in the USA with a TESOL/TEFL certification. Each state has its own licensing requirements, and it's a whole lot more involved than that.

I'm not an expert on it, but a TESOL/TEFL certification from anywhere other than a university isn't worth much. Maybe the CELTA is affiliated with some university in the USA, but it's a British-based certification, and by itself isn't nearly enough for a certification in the US.

Check with a university in the state you intend to teach in. You can probably get an idea of what you'll need for an undergrad, followed by what certification courses and testing you'll need.
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Starla



Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
You won't get a teaching job in the USA with a TESOL/TEFL certification. Each state has its own licensing requirements, and it's a whole lot more involved than that.

I'm not an expert on it, but a TESOL/TEFL certification from anywhere other than a university isn't worth much. Maybe the CELTA is affiliated with some university in the USA, but it's a British-based certification, and by itself isn't nearly enough for a certification in the US.

Check with a university in the state you intend to teach in. You can probably get an idea of what you'll need for an undergrad, followed by what certification courses and testing you'll need.


That sucks. I wonder what people who have taught in Korea for years do once they go back to the U.S. without a Master's. I guess if I like teaching English enough, I might end up going for my Master's in the states and the TESOL certification. All I know is I don't ever want to work in finance again.
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rumdiary wrote:
What states actually allow you to teach with TESOL certification? I thought most required a masters or a teaching credential? Does TESOL certification open up doors to teaching in any other countries?


Rural Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas (that I know of for sure) will allow you to teach with as little as a non-related BA and TESOL

OR

a high school diploma and teachers training (offered by the state) and the promise that you will continue your education while you work.

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agoodmouse



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Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Obtaining TESOL certification in Korea Reply with quote

Starla wrote:
I've thinking about what I'd like to do while I'm in Korea and one of them is get my TESOL certification. Teaching English in the U.S. after my stint in Korea is a possibility once I get enough experience. Are there places in Korea where I could obtain this certification? If so, where and how much would the cost be? Thanks.


What's been said on this thread is true, regarding the application of TESOL credentials to teaching certification in the U.S. However, that doesn't mean you shouldn't, or wouldn't benefit from, a TESOL course. Some would have you believe otherwise. They're wrong.

CELTA at British Council

CELTA at IGSE in Seoul

KEI-TEFL

Asian EFL TESOL

Do yourself a favor and do the CELTA. It was started in England, but it's the most widely recognized TESOL certificate in the world, whether or not people like it. However, as for Korea itself, there's little delineation between an online TEFL and an onsite TEFL.
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