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PS Teachers--Do you mock the curriculum?
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: PS Teachers--Do you mock the curriculum? Reply with quote

I do. Every time. In front of the students. As does my co teacher. It's horrible. Are we undermining the students' confidence in their shitty English curriculum, or just letting them know we know it's dumb, so let's just get through it so we can play a game.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: PS Teachers--Do you mock the curriculum? Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
I do. Every time. In front of the students. As does my co teacher. It's horrible. Are we undermining the students' confidence in their shitty English curriculum, or just letting them know we know it's dumb, so let's just get through it so we can play a game.


I'm given a complete free hand in what I do in class, and even though I've told/asked my co-teachers that I'd be more than happy to help supplement what they teach in their English class, but no one has come back to me on this.

I think they like my classes, because they really don't have to do much of anything in them, other than translate some stuff.

my students would not know how to spell curriculum, and they'd probably not know what it means (in Korean! )
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Cracker006



Joined: 11 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ignore it completely.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mock it. I change schools this week.


I will mock it there.
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DrOctagon



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What curriculum? Co-teacher? What's that?

"Hello English teacher. Here is your class. Bye-bye!"

Damn EPIK. Do you think I should tell someone that there is no co-teacher? Will anything be done?
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you have teaching experience, it can be a benefit not having the teacher there.


Or, you can ust have the kids sit in their desks and write in big capital letters on the blackboard


"THE CLASS WILL BEGIN WHEN TEACHER KIM ARRIVES."
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elementary, Middle, high school? Which curriculum you talking about?

I like the Elementary curriculum. It keeps it simple. Since it is so simple, there is a LOT of room to be creative.

I think its much better than a ESL textbook where it is so structured that the routine never changes.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mock the whole military style way of doing things. When the kids come to attention and bow I do a goofy British style salute. Whenever I have to attend an opening ceromony I do everything really exaggerated. I still remember all the drill from cadets. The Koreans don't pick up on the obvious sarcasm.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Elementary, Middle, high school? Which curriculum you talking about?

I like the Elementary curriculum. It keeps it simple. Since it is so simple, there is a LOT of room to be creative.

I think its much better than a ESL textbook where it is so structured that the routine never changes.


Elementary. It's so so so incredibly stupid. The voice acting, the animation, the target vocabulary. It does give a lot of leeway but it could be about 200% better in terms of getting people's voices to match their genders, ages, races, etc.
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I_Am_The_Kiwi



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrOctagon wrote:
What curriculum? Co-teacher? What's that?

"Hello English teacher. Here is your class. Bye-bye!"

Damn EPIK. Do you think I should tell someone that there is no co-teacher? Will anything be done?


Tell then, but nothing can be done. If the teacher doesnt want to be there they cant force them to.

Ive had no coteachers since day one. Who gives a shit, if something happens in class, if you get a review saying your teaching sux you can simply say fuk you - i had no support or coteacher and told you about it. eat it.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I_Am_The_Kiwi wrote:
DrOctagon wrote:
What curriculum? Co-teacher? What's that?

"Hello English teacher. Here is your class. Bye-bye!"

Damn EPIK. Do you think I should tell someone that there is no co-teacher? Will anything be done?


Tell then, but nothing can be done. If the teacher doesnt want to be there they cant force them to.

Ive had no coteachers since day one. Who gives a shit, if something happens in class, if you get a review saying your teaching sux you can simply say fuk you - i had no support or coteacher and told you about it. eat it.


I don't enter the classroom without a Korean co-teacher and neither should you.

You're better off just waiting outside for your co-teacher. I'll stand outside for five or ten minutes eventially the co-teacher will get the hint. Trying to manage classes with forty odd students is a waste of your time and really bad on the blood pressure.
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I_Am_The_Kiwi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

classroom management aint such a problem....i deal with the kids pretty well and havnt had to send any out or deal with them individually in any way.

the co-teaching thing cant happen either as i have been given more english classes than co-teachers exist. basically meaning that when i have a class there is no coteacher available to be in there with me anyway.

i dont mind - the kids are more responsive and chatty without their korean teachers in the room.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
Elementary, Middle, high school? Which curriculum you talking about?

I like the Elementary curriculum. It keeps it simple. Since it is so simple, there is a LOT of room to be creative.

I think its much better than a ESL textbook where it is so structured that the routine never changes.


Elementary. It's so so so incredibly stupid. The voice acting, the animation, the target vocabulary. It does give a lot of leeway but it could be about 200% better in terms of getting people's voices to match their genders, ages, races, etc.


It was the first attempt at an English curriculum at the Elementary school level.

Pretty soon they are going to change the curriculum again. Hopefully, learning from the shortcomings of this one.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elementary English curriculum? I don't know what that is as it does not exist in English teaching where I'm at. I'm given full freedom to teach and do as I see fit. While it's good to have freedom, this means I have to reinvent the wheel on what to teach and how to teach it. It's easy with 3rd and 4th grade, but 5th and 6th is a bit more challenging especially since their class size is twice as large.
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DrOctagon



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a high school. First day, I've already seen two beatings. Hmmm... I love how no laws are enforced in Korea. You can basically do whatever the hell you want, except throw all trash in the same bag, throw cigarette butts on the ground, wear your shoes indoors, etc. This society is very oxymoronic. Couples can't live together on Jeju island if they're not married, yet they have *beep* houses and hostess bars everywhere, and advertisements for call-girls. Don't get me wrong, I love it here so far. The people are all generally nice. But, I just can't seem to get a grasp on some things here.
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