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South Korea Does Not Have Federal Laws
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: South Korea Does Not Have Federal Laws Reply with quote

[Rant mode]
I've noticed a number of folks talking about the ROK's "federal laws." The Republic of Korea is not a federation. It's a republic (check the name for a clue). The country has national laws.

Saying South Korea has federal laws is like saying England has federal laws. Neither one is a federation.
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Thank you for your attention. Enjoy the rest of your day. "Let's be careful out there--and precise!"
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically, Korea does have a federal government. You have the local provinces with their own local governments, and then you have the national government.

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The term federalism is also used to describe a system of the government in which sovereignty is constitutionally divided between a central governing authority and constituent political units (like states or provinces).


So, Federal Law in Korea would be the law that is passed by the national assembly. Provincial law would be laws that apply to each individual proince (gyeonggi-do, gangwon-do, etc...)
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are absolutely wrong. It is not a federation; therefore, no federal laws.
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Pink Freud



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada is a confederation. It has a federal government, however, and federal laws, as well as provincial ones.

Pick your nits more selectively, please.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US is a representative republic and yet still has a federal system. I would deign to say they're not mutually exclusive, Professor.
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, after checking Wikipedia, he is right. Technically Korea is Republic (Unitary State or Unitary Republic) due to its constitution and the fact that although each province does have elected officials and policy power, they must defer their power to the national government if the capital deems it necessary.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The provinces in Korea are the creatures of the national government. The national government can change the boundaries at any time and has done so several times. For example, the big cities were carved out of their former provinces and turned into whatever separate entities they are now.

In federal systems the states/provinces are inferior to the national government, but they do have a certain amount of restricted sovereignty.

All federal laws are national laws but national laws are not necessarily federal laws.
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were always people like this in political science classes, but I didn't think I'd see anyone get worked up enough from this kind of thing to rant about it after graduation.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "rant" tags are a joke. I toyed with the idea of using "peeve" instead of "rant" in them.

My point is that I would hope someone who has graduated from a real university in a first world country would be aware of something so simple as the type of government of the nation in which they reside.
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bangbayed



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your beef is really with the fact that most people talk about laws back home as being "federal laws" and don't change their vocabulary here to "national laws".

But yeah, it's a pretty small cut of beef.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There were always people like this in political science classes, but I didn't think I'd see anyone get worked up enough from this kind of thing to rant about it after graduation.


You didn't think people who spend their days explaining the difference between 'while' and 'during', between 'intersection' and 'crossing' , 'mouse' and 'rat' would get into a thread on the difference between 'national' and 'federal'?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YTB, I really don't think he's that clever.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: South Korea Does Not Have Federal Laws Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
[Rant mode]
I've noticed a number of folks talking about the ROK's "federal laws." The Republic of Korea is not a federation. It's a republic (check the name for a clue). The country has national laws.

Saying South Korea has federal laws is like saying England has federal laws. Neither one is a federation.
[/Rant mode]

Thank you for your attention. Enjoy the rest of your day. "Let's be careful out there--and precise!"


Come on.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

My point is that I would hope someone who has graduated from a real university in a first world country would be aware of something so simple as the type of government of the nation in which they reside.


Outside of a political science major/minor, no one would ever take a class that got that deeply into semantic minutiae. Unless you took a class specifically on the differences between forms of government, this would never come up. I like splitting hairs and even I think this is a little much.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unless you took a class specifically on the differences between forms of government, this would never come up.


You didn't cover that in your high school gov't course? During that lesson in the first chapter on representative democracy? Shocked Shame on your teacher. Or perhaps you were preoccupied with your woody because Alice was wearing a tight sweater that day?
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