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taobenli
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: why no google maps/google earth Korea? |
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I can see all the streets in the little podunk town I lived in in southern Japan if I got to google earth or google maps, but Seoul is not even listed. What's the deal? Get with the program, Korea! |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean Google Streetview hasn't covered Seoul yet? That's true. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just a wild guess, but - maybe because they're still at war with the PDRK?  |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Just a wild guess, but - maybe because they're still at war with the PDRK?  |
You mean DPRK. Yes, streetview may not have covered it, but google earth sure does, for Seoul at least. You can also see parts of Pyongyang. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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UNless it's been taken down, a few months ago, I spent days poring over detailed parts of the south coast of the country looking for places to live and work. One of those places was an air base in the south of the country. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think he means the roadmaps, not the satellite view. I'll go ahead and give the answer that other dave's esl korea experts would give:
1. xenophobia - don't want foreigners trying to see their streets
2. confucianism - the streets are older than us, so we should respect them by not calling them by their first names
3. saving face - they've got crummy street names and they're trying to hide them |
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doc_ido

Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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This has been annoying me for months, as it makes it harder to geotag photographs. You locate places by typing the Romanised name into the search field, but there are no roads or place names on the map (the satellite images work fine, though) so you kind of have to find things by nearby landmarks.
I have an example screenshot here - nearby Japan and China have cities and roads marked, but not North or South Korea.
I don't think it can be anything to do with the war, as you can get info for places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel with no problems at all. The only other country I know of that has no mapping information is Argentina. |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Not supplying maps is part of Korean culture. |
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bangbayed

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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You can always crossreference it on Congnamul.com, or just use Congnamul if you just want to get maps and find directions. It's actually better than Google in a lot of ways (bus routes, mapping out bus directions). And you can find addresses on there pretty easily. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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jkelly80 wrote: |
Not supplying maps is part of Korean culture. |
Bingo! Not supplying maps and information is very true. It's frustrating so I really don't explore Korea as much as I had hoped. If I had a car, I would just drive and find my way around and actually enjoy it. You would find many cool temples and everything else available that interests you. I guess Koreans know how to get around their small country so they don't need maps and information. Maybe it's all in Hangul using Korean made websites and programs? For example, they use Naver, not Google. |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
jkelly80 wrote: |
Not supplying maps is part of Korean culture. |
Bingo! Not supplying maps and information is very true. It's frustrating so I really don't explore Korea as much as I had hoped. If I had a car, I would just drive and find my way around and actually enjoy it. You would find many cool temples and everything else available that interests you. I guess Koreans know how to get around their small country so they don't need maps and information. Maybe it's all in Hangul using Korean made websites and programs? For example, they use Naver, not Google. |
Naver is very famous in Korea. Standardization or compatibility? Not so famous. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Could it be that it is more Google's fault than Korea's?
Google figured that having a detailed map of Korea and its roads were not worth the investment.
Makes sense. about 1% of the Korean population use Google. No one outside of Korea would give a rats ass where the closest Nene Chicken is. Seriously, if google really wanted to, they could BUY Congnamul outright and have that company make the Korean maps as detailed as possible.
But, in the end it is Korea's fault because they didn't offer that information free to google for the betterment of mankind.
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Korea's trying to get global. Google's one of the better ways to do that, even if you don't have an immediate $$$ pay-off from the get go. It's just Korea making itself look hermetic, again. |
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bangbayed

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
jkelly80 wrote: |
Not supplying maps is part of Korean culture. |
Bingo! Not supplying maps and information is very true. I guess Koreans know how to get around their small country so they don't need maps and information. Maybe it's all in Hangul using Korean made websites and programs? For example, they use Naver, not Google. |
Koreans don't need maps? This is a seriously map-addicted nation. Just count the number of different maps in a subway station. In Vancouver, you're lucky if you get ONE. Since when have you seen so many cars and taxis with 3D GPS systems? Just because they're not in English doesn't mean Koreans don't use them. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: |
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In the last 5 or so years, Korean drivers have practically developed a "live or die" relationship with their car GPS navigation unit. It's almost as if a Korean driver is in panic mode if he/she can't find their navigation unit. Kind of like the cell phone, I wonder how I lived all those years without a cell phone. |
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