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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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 Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Is McCain a war criminal? |
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| McCain dropped bombs on hundreds if not thousands of innocent civilians, and also apparently thought it was a good idea. Is that not a war crime? |
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rooster_2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Is McCain a war criminal? |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| McCain dropped bombs on hundreds if not thousands of innocent civilians, and also apparently thought it was a good idea. Is that not a war crime? |
What political party do you generally vote for? The Whigs? The Funders? The Adjusters? |
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stonepepe1
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:47 am Post subject: |
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what a stupid premise
he is a war hero |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| Why is he a war hero? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| This is why. |
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mises
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| He didn't rat on his buddies and that is very honorable. He also refused to leave without them, again this is honorable. Maybe heroic, I can't really say. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Stupid thread and it shows how arbitrary "war criminal" and "hero" remain in political discussions. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Rubbish. |
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Czarjorge
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Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| THis is the kind of crap that pushes people that would vote against McCain on policy into his camp so they can vote for him to defend his record. C'mon. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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That's the nature of war.
Personally I don't like killing people so never took part in it. I'd like to express the point that peace is great, yet, how can a nation work to have peace when there are countries developing their weaponry and aiming it at them?
However, Vietnam was a damned farce. People who voluntarily went in there to kill to stop 'communism' dah! or because they didn't like yellow Asian people, or simply because their mates joined up, need their heads read.
The problem may seem to become blurred because MacCain was merely following his father's footsteps. Then I think, what a wuss. Go and make your own way in the World instead of dragging on your daddy's coattails.
Life is not a battlefield. I don't want to offer up my family life, income etc over to someone who can't think for themselves nor make their own conclusions. Those qualities are worthless for being a leader of a people during civilian life.
Leave him as a war hero, at best give him a pension or a position in the Defence (or Attack) Dept. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| You think McCain was not thinking for himself? Wow. Just wow. The rest of your post displayed some incredibly strange assumptions, also. |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Is McCain a war criminal? |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| McCain dropped bombs on hundreds if not thousands of innocent civilians, and also apparently thought it was a good idea. Is that not a war crime? |
I don't think he was a good enough pilot to be considered a war criminal.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/mccain_military_record.htm
[/quote]McCain, the "below par" pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft, the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and graduated McCain in 1960.
But, despite his heritage, the young McCain only managed to finish 894th out of a class of 899.
Ahhh, i'm just being snarky. It's war. Sh!t happens. Bad sh!t. To everyone. War criminals run extermination camps, torture prisoners, intentionally target civilians and have mustaches or monocles. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| He didn't rat on his buddies and that is very honorable. He also refused to leave without them, again this is honorable. Maybe heroic, I can't really say. |
I can, since I swore by that code, as did anyone else who honorably served.
http://www.army.com/resources/item/965[/url]
God bless America! |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| He may be a hero for resisting torture but he still dropped bombs on civilians. How is that not a war crime? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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No one outside of hippie-never-neverland accepts your simplistic definition that all war combatants are necessarily war criminals.
I imagine how you will respond, and, no doubt with self-righteous indignation to punctuate your outrage at my position. But I will counter that by not-so-patiently explaining that competing armies have not squared off against each other on battlefields empty of civilians since Napoleon. |
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