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Offshore Oil Drilling
Will appreciably lower the price of oil
34%
 34%  [ 10 ]
Cannot appreciably lower the price of oil
55%
 55%  [ 16 ]
Other
10%
 10%  [ 3 ]
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Offshore Oil Drilling Reply with quote

Is this not the most inadequate response to our present problems?

Well, the GOP is pushing it hard. Frankly, I'm embarrassed for them.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know I really don't care if it pushes the price of oil down (although I voted no). I hope that prices stay high because the United States is too dependent on cars and gas. I hope these high prices will push both the government and business to pour resources into alternative energy, and lead to better urban planning.
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yawarakaijin



Joined: 08 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry. The only correct answer is we must become more independant in regards to oil in order to defeat the evil doers. I thought everyone knew that.
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Czarjorge



Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We really need to look into Compressed Natural Gas, at least we have an abundance of that IN the US. We should also look into biofuels that AREN'T corn. Pols like Harkin are injuring the country to prop up factory farms in Iowa and that's not right on so many levels. Switch grass is the way to go, and there are weeds that are even better and can be used to make both bio fuel and to be burned in coal plants.

Drilling MIGHT make a different ten years down the road. The problem with offshore drilling is that most of it happens in the Gulf, and since we're on a track to have stronger and more frequent hurricanes that's a bad idea on so many levels.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not? We will not be 100% off oil in even 20 years. Why send that money to the Saudi's and Hugo?
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Offshore Oil Drilling Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Is this not the most inadequate response to our present problems?

Well, the GOP is pushing it hard. Frankly, I'm embarrassed for them.


Why not try and see? Open up Alaska and drill the coastline. Some people believe that we have more oil up there than Saudia Arabia has.

Build 50 more nuclear plants.

Why not try?
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Offshore Oil Drilling Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
Kuros wrote:
Is this not the most inadequate response to our present problems?

Well, the GOP is pushing it hard. Frankly, I'm embarrassed for them.


Why not try and see? Open up Alaska and drill the coastline. Some people believe that we have more oil up there than Saudia Arabia has.

Build 50 more nuclear plants.

Why not try?


50 more nuclear plants is totally different.

And what people think there is more oil up there than is in Saudi? Source??
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Offshore Oil Drilling Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
Kuros wrote:
Is this not the most inadequate response to our present problems?

Well, the GOP is pushing it hard. Frankly, I'm embarrassed for them.


Why not try and see? Open up Alaska and drill the coastline. Some people believe that we have more oil up there than Saudia Arabia has.

Build 50 more nuclear plants.

Why not try?


50 more nuclear plants is totally different.

And what people think there is more oil up there than is in Saudi? Source??


Lindsey Williams talks about his first hand knowledge of Alaskan oil reserves larger than any on earth. And he talks about how the oil companies and U.S. government won't send it through the pipeline for U.S. citizens to use.

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=oil+industry&hl=en&emb=0#q=oil%20industry%2C%20alaska&hl=en&emb=0

I don't know how legit this guy is, but it's pretty interesting stuff. Noticed how he predicted the price of oil going up to 5 bucks before it did.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It won't move prices: worldwide supply and demand do that. What it will do is help the current account deficit, $2B a day for oil alone.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, offshore drilling will not lower prices. Demand in the US, China and around the world is going to continue to increase.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, if demand is going to continue to increase and new supply not added what will happen?

You all sound like a bunch of California Democrats. Of COURSE you drill in the United States. It is much more complicated that the talking points we're being fed.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Dave, if demand is going to continue to increase and new supply not added what will happen?


The price is going to go up and up and up. Duh!

mises wrote:
You all sound like a bunch of California Democrats. Of COURSE you drill in the United States. It is much more complicated that the talking points we're being fed.


Of course it is more complicated, we won't see oil from new drilling for 10 years. Yet people aren't heeding the call to further develop alternative energy. Oh, that's just a bunch of enviromental whiners I know.


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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Well, the GOP is pushing it hard.


Right. Your poll question, then, really asks this: do you people at Dave's ESL Cafe prefer B. Obama or J. McCain?
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm totally appalled.

Drill + other sources of energy.
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Offshore Oil Drilling Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
Kuros wrote:
Is this not the most inadequate response to our present problems?

Well, the GOP is pushing it hard. Frankly, I'm embarrassed for them.


Why not try and see? Open up Alaska and drill the coastline. Some people believe that we have more oil up there than Saudia Arabia has.

Build 50 more nuclear plants.

Why not try?


50 more nuclear plants is totally different.

And what people think there is more oil up there than is in Saudi? Source??


What do you think? Why isn't anyone responding to this video?
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