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glimmer
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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 Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ut videam wrote: |
Might want to try pointing him to this:
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| 또한, 07. 12. 15. 이후 회화지도비자를 받은 외국인이 국내에 계속 체류하면서 회화지도비자를 재발급 받고자 할 경우에는 범죄경력증명서를 제출하지 않아도 된다. |
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| In addition, those with the E-2 visa issued after Dec 15 2007 no longer need to submit the criminal record certificate to reissue the same type of visa while staying in Korea. |
The English version is here: http://www.immigration.go.kr/HP/IMM80/imm_09/1184186_37493.jsp
Unfortunately, it's not possible to link to the Korean version, but you can get to it from the Korean homepage by clicking 알림마당 -> 새소식 and going to post #349 (date: 2008/03/24). |
Interesting ... but I wouldn't be surprised if Immigration says that by leaving the country for a visa run you thereby forfeit the definition of "while staying in Korea"  |
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Ut videam
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Nope, because the visa's already been approved before you make the visa run.
Here's what you do:- Quit old job.
- Go to Immigration (preferably with the old boss), cancel your visa, and get a 30-day exit order.
- Apply for the new visa.
They'll begin to process the new visa immediately since you're no longer on an E-2, AND you haven't left the country so you don't have to present a new CRC. |
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glimmer
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ut videam wrote: |
Nope, because the visa's already been approved before you make the visa run.
Here's what you do:- Quit old job.
- Go to Immigration (preferably with the old boss), cancel your visa, and get a 30-day exit order.
- Apply for the new visa.
They'll begin to process the new visa immediately since you're no longer on an E-2, AND you haven't left the country so you don't have to present a new CRC. |
OK ... do I actually NEED a letter of release in this case? |
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DrTommyTom
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Suwon, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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hey I'm in a somewhat similar situation. I have been working in the Seoul area for about 5 months and I am seriously thinking of quitting the job I have . My hagwon has not been paying into the pension at all and it hasnt just been mine. He hasnt paid anyone's pension in 10 years!!! Also, I work split shifts and my housing is shoddy (I live in the basement of the school)
See I would love to quit but theres a problem. Hes an American guy who might take my quitting as a personal matter and will probably deny my rightful letter of release. To me, this is strictly business.
My questions are "Can the hagwon refuse a letter of release?". I need some reasons for quitting other than "Im leaving for a better job". "Is there legal recourse for denial of a letter of release?" "Do I even need a letter of release?"
Also, I am part of the newer crop of teachers. I had my background checks submitted after the december deadline and I do have a job lined up for the time being.
Any help would be much appreciated. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| DrTommyTom wrote: |
hey I'm in a somewhat similar situation. I have been working in the Seoul area for about 5 months and I am seriously thinking of quitting the job I have . My hagwon has not been paying into the pension at all and it hasnt just been mine. He hasnt paid anyone's pension in 10 years!!! Also, I work split shifts and my housing is shoddy (I live in the basement of the school)
See I would love to quit but theres a problem. Hes an American guy who might take my quitting as a personal matter and will probably deny my rightful letter of release. To me, this is strictly business.
My questions are "Can the hagwon refuse a letter of release?". I need some reasons for quitting other than "Im leaving for a better job". "Is there legal recourse for denial of a letter of release?" "Do I even need a letter of release?"
Also, I am part of the newer crop of teachers. I had my background checks submitted after the december deadline and I do have a job lined up for the time being.
Any help would be much appreciated. |
"Can the hagwon refuse a letter of release?".
Yes, they are under no obligation to issue one.
Is it 100% necessary to change jobs? (Do I NEED a LOR?)
Only if you are more than 9 months into your current contract and plan to "transfer" to a new job.
IF you plan to obtain a NEW visa and do a visa run then it is NOT required.
Leave your job.
Go to immigration and tell them that you quit. Feel free to complain about breaches of labor, pension and/or other assorted laws and/or breaches of your contract if you think it is appropriate.
They will take your ARC.
You will get a 30 day exit order.
Find a new job.
Have the employer file for a new visa
(you shouldn't need a new CRC but you WILL need all the other documents).
Do your visa run.
Start your new job.
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Immigration refused to give me a 30 day exit order. I could only get 15 days. Of course no one there really spoke English, but I think they told me it was because I had only been in the country for six months total. First contract. |
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glimmer
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| polonius wrote: |
If you have not completed 3/4 of your contract, then you cannot transfer your visa to a new company. You will have to do a visa run.
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Is it 100% necessary to change jobs? (Do I NEED a LOR?)
Only if you are more than 9 months into your current contract and plan to "transfer" to a new job.
IF you plan to obtain a NEW visa and do a visa run then it is NOT required. |
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| Immigration refused to give me a 30 day exit order. I could only get 15 days. Of course no one there really spoke English, but I think they told me it was because I had only been in the country for six months total. First contract. |
Are these points also clarified on the Korean immigration web site somewhere? Recruiters don't have a clue. |
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