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Socks

Joined: 15 May 2008 Location: somewhere in here...
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: Kim Jong Il dead |
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=627370
North Korean leader Kim Jong Il has been dead for years and replaced by a number of look-alikes, a Japanese academic claims.
North Korea expert Professor Toshimitsu Shigemura, a professor of international relations, says Kim died of diabetes in 2003 and has been substituted by up to four body doubles ever since.
Driven by a fear of assassination, Kim allegedly trained his doppelgangers � one of whom underwent plastic surgery � to attend public appearances.
"Scholars don�t trust my reasoning but intelligence people see the possibility that it will turn out to be accurate," Fox News reported Professor Shigemura as saying.
"I have identified and pinned down every source."
Kim, 66, has not appeared in public for three weeks amid rumours he is seriously unwell.
While Seoul intelligence officials have said they believe he has diabetes and heart problems, they do not think he is near death.
But Professor Shigemura, from Tokyo's respected Waseda University, believes that Kim actually died sometime during a 42-day absence from public in September 2003.
He claims that whenever anyone is granted a face-to-face meeting with today's Kim, a senior official is always by his side "like a puppet master".
Professor Shigemura's claims, outlined in his book The True Character of Kim Jong-il, have been disputed by North Korean officials.
I don't know if there is any truth behind this - but just wanted to see what other people think... |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: |
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I wish this were true but the same rumours about Saddam never came to anything.
Somebody should assasinate that guy though. And his cousin Menta-Li Il. Zing! |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Rusty Shackleford wrote: |
...the same rumours about Saddam... |
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Yesterday

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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If he did die - would the north ever tell anybody - wouldn't we have to live with his "doubles" for the next 50 years...? |
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Socks

Joined: 15 May 2008 Location: somewhere in here...
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milspecs

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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he has a crazy son just waiting to take over |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hear that America?
Gogogogogogogogogogogogogo... |
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Areut

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Location: Behind You!!!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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IncognitoHFX wrote: |
Hear that America?
Gogogogogogogogogogogogogo... |
LOL you know we would jump at the chance! |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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He wears lift shoes... that explains the 2.5 cm.
Also, if you compare those photos, the ears are perfect. Ears are something that even the best plastic surgeons can't duplicate correctly.
That Japanese guy is just drawing attention to himself. KJI ain't dead. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
Also, if you compare those photos, the ears are perfect. Ears are something that even the best plastic surgeons can't duplicate correctly.
That Japanese guy is just drawing attention to himself. KJI ain't dead. |
Couldn't they have cut the ears off of the dead kim and sewn them on the new one? |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
bassexpander wrote: |
Also, if you compare those photos, the ears are perfect. Ears are something that even the best plastic surgeons can't duplicate correctly.
That Japanese guy is just drawing attention to himself. KJI ain't dead. |
Couldn't they have cut the ears off of the dead kim and sewn them on the new one? |
Somebody should take the tour and ask, "Hey, I heard that Kim Jung Il is really dead, and that they sewed his ears on his body double."
I wonder how that would go over.  |
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the foystein
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I knew a lady who was a secretary at the CIA. In Mao's last years they also thought he was dead. Whenever a new picture would appear she would send it to an ear specialist in Iowa. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
KJI ain't dead. |
I wonder why he isn't going outside, though...
He must be so ronery. |
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OnTheOtherSide

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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It is definantly possible.
At least once a month i'll see a guy on the street who looks exactly like Kim Jong Il. With a little surgery and training, it would be easy for someone to pull it off. |
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TheKudzuConnection
Joined: 27 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Shigemura must be a Kagemusha fan.
In Kagemusha, the imposter becomes bold and makes a mistake, revealing his identity. After that, the late ruler's son takes over the Takeda clan and leads an attack on a rival clan. The rival clan wipes out the Takeda.
So maybe Kim Jong-il's imposter will be revealed, and Kim Jong-chul will take over North Korea and attack South Korea, and South Korea will defeat North Korea and take over its territory.
Just a thought. |
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