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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| don't think Katrina had anything to do w/ conservative or liberal |
It would if the handling of it reflected conservatives' view of the role of the national government in local events. It isn't clear if that is the case. It is clear that the current administration spent billions on 'security' after 9/11 and then dropped the ball on the first major emergency. Since Republicans have had a hate on for FEMA for years, it's fair to suspect a connection. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| don't think Katrina had anything to do w/ conservative or liberal |
It would if the handling of it reflected conservatives' view of the role of the national government in local events. It isn't clear if that is the case. It is clear that the current administration spent billions on 'security' after 9/11 and then dropped the ball on the first major emergency. Since Republicans have had a hate on for FEMA for years, it's fair to suspect a connection. |
I am sure New Orleans was in need of repairs when the democrats were in the white house as well. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| If you think the Hadron Collider is dangerous, wait till you see a McPain administration. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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NBC/WSJ Poll: '08 race turns into a dead heat
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A tie is better than the 10 point lead Gallup gave the other day. Besides, what are the numbers in the Electoral College? |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Because of the "small state bias" built into the electoral college system dead heats are to the benefit of the Republicans. The talking heads are still very resentful of the fact the there will be no triumphal coronation of Emoeror Obama.
The fact remains that he is all hat and no cows as Hillary Clinton has pointed out. Or, a highly polished empty vessel as someone else pointed out.
I am waiting for Sarah the pit bull to tear Ol' Joe Biden's face off. Followed by Obama giving "nuanced" responses while McCain gives one liners and gets the votes. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| That "lipstick on a pig" comment was lovely. Basically if this is what Obamma's about I'm glad he's gonna get defeated in November. The guy is a dunce. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Quick question: can't Obama just drop a hint that Hillary Clinton will have a key position in his administration should he win? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Autumn Angst: Dems fret about Obama
Polls showing McCain tied or even ahead of Obama are stirring angst among some of the Democratic Party�s most experienced operatives.
Photo: AP
Polls showing John McCain tied or even ahead of Barack Obama are stirring angst and second-guessing among some of the Democratic Party�s most experienced operatives, who worry that Obama squandered opportunities over the summer and may still be underestimating his challenges this fall.
�It�s more than an increased anxiety,� said Doug Schoen, who worked as one of Bill Clinton�s lead pollsters during his 1996 reelection and has worked for both Democrats and independents in recent years. �It�s a palpable frustration. Deep-seated unease in the sense that the message has gotten away from them.�
Joe Trippi, a consultant behind Howard Dean�s flash-in-the-pan presidential campaign in 2004 and John Edwards� race in 2008, said the Obama campaign was slow to recognize how the selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as McCain�s running mate would change the dynamic of the race.
�They were set up to run �experience versus change,� what they had run [against Hillary] Clinton,� Trippi said. �And I think Palin clearly moved that to be change [and] reform, versus change. They are adjusting to that and that threw them off balance a little bit.�
A major Democratic fundraiser described it a good bit more starkly after digesting the polls of recent days: �I�m so depressed. It�s happening again. It�s a nightmare.�
Adding to Democratic restlessness, McCain has largely neutralized some issue advantages that have long favored Democrats.
This week�s USA Today/Gallup poll reported a split on which candidate �can better handle the economy�; 48 percent chose Obama while 45 percent said McCain. In late August, Obama had a 16-point edge on the issue.
Also this week, an ABC News/Washington Post poll reported that when voters are asked �who can bring about needed change to Washington,� McCain still trails Obama by 12 points. But in June, McCain trailed by 32 points.
That shift in the public�s perception of the issues, in Democratic pollster Celinda Lake�s words, �tremendously concerns me.�
Lake joined other Democratic veterans, some speaking not for attribution, in emphasizing a classic liberal woe: that the Democrat let the Republican define him.
�Obama needed to define himself,� Lake said. �I do think that during the Democratic convention we should have done a better job of defining McCain.�
Steve Rosenthal, a veteran field organizer for Democrats and organized labor, said that some entrenched Democratic vulnerabilities never receded this year. And in his view, Palin has reawakened those liberal weaknesses.
�For some white, working-class voters who don�t want to vote for Barack Obama but weren�t sure about McCain, Palin gave them a good reason to take another look and consider supporting McCain,� Rosenthal said.
�On the one hand, it could be a temporary reshuffling of the deck,� he added. �And on the other hand, it underscores the deep-seated problems we have in this race with race, class and culture. |
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13357.html
And I feel for Democrats. They must be depressed.
The intrade prediction markets now favour McCain, for the very first time. Not once has a Republican, in 18 months, been ahead. Better late than never, in their eyes. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Sccording to RCP McCain has a 20 point favorability rating compared to Obama at 18 points. |
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