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| What is wonjongim thinking when he tells you very important things 2 seconds before they happen? (class changes, moving appartment etc.) |
| You must do as I say because you are 'inferior' in this relationship (no guilt). |
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| gee I'm sorry, I wish I could have given you more notice |
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| It's bad enough I have to employ foreigners, now I've actually got to talk with them! |
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mack the knife
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...
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| The law entitles you to reasonable living conditions. Since that is almost entirely subjective, you may have a hard time convincing "the man" if your only complaints are those listed so far. On the other hand, you've nothing to lose, except perhaps any semblance of goodwill your boss might have towards you. If I were in your situation, I'd role the dice and pay the price. Screw living in ghetto conditions. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Screw living in ghetto conditions |
Agreed, unless of course they're ghetto fabulous conditions ...]
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Example: Toilet is broken. You ask loads of times, nothing is done. Ring you boss at 4am every night and say "my toilet is making noise..what should I do?" If still no reaction. Stop coming in on time. they will ring you. Simply say "my toilet is overflowing..what should I do"?
If they want to treat you like a moron, act like one.
Face saving/losing..its all crap when it hits them in the pocket and your previously aloof boss is stuck with his hands down your toilet. |
This strikes me as parading around as a victim with a handicapped mentality. If there were no immediate results from the school, I'd just phone someone myself to come fix it. |
I see it as more a case of simply holding up a mirror.
Fortunately, my boss was VERY helpful when the same thing happened to me. Little things like that make those 12 months worth enduring.
I still had my fair share of 2 second warnings, though.  |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| I prefer the term 'obtuse'. 'Rude' implies that one has aquired a modicum of manners and chooses to ignore them. 'Obtuse' suggests that one has never learned the basics of civility, and for that reason you can't fault them. You just have to learn to work around them. So when they clog up the elevator or doorway, or spit or puke on your pathway, have a little compassion for them. They are not genetically predisposed to be polite in the Western sense of the term. But in groups of fewer than two, they can be some of the most splendid people on the earth. Just avoid the herd mentality. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:13 am Post subject: yes |
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I think they have absolutely no foresight.
The kids are way stupider than even the stupidest classmates I had when I was in school.
They know by now that I don't let kids out for water right after break, but they eat spicy food on their break. Why? A total lack of foresight.
They know I will tell them to borrow a pencil, and I won't let them sharpen their pencil during class, as they should have done it during their break. Same with the bathroom. Stupid stupid stupid.
They walk with no regard for people around them. I always walk with my head up and looking forward. If I back up or spin around, I generally look over my shoulder. It's not even to be courteous. It's to protect myself. If I walk with my head down I might walk into a post, walk into someone's elbow, etc etc.
I understand it may seem rude for us to walk off the plane and demand the WJN change all of his ways to suit a foreigner. The fact is, if you are in the business of working with foreigner and a foreign language, it's necessary to accept some parts of western culture.
Some guy today was pushing me from behind in a lineup. I turned around and asked 'Are you trying to f%%& me up the a$$?' He didn't understand. Sometimes I like it when people can't understand english.
Don't mind me, I am venting. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| I think they have absolutely no foresight. |
That's almost true. In most cases when I've worked with Korean colleagues on staff, I often find that they also were not given much notice, and therefore I don't think it's entirely a problem of it being difficult to talk to the foreign teachers.
Still gets my undies in a twist, especially when they tell me "It's Korean style." I can't help it - I tell 'em it's not about culture, folks, it's about what works and what doesn't ... |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| They are not genetically predisposed to be polite in the Western sense of the term |
Dodgy. A genetically Korean who was raised in New Zealand by a kiwi family would be quite different. It's cultural not genetic. |
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