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Dances With Wolves



Joined: 06 May 2008
Location: A galaxy far, far away!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:21 am    Post subject: Two questions about pay any help appreciated. Reply with quote

I have been here roughly 3 weeks, and well I have a couple questions about pay. First, when I arrived at my school they did not have a place available for me, so they put me up in a hotel, and I paid for it. I have asked to be reimbursed for this money (130,000 won) and my school says that it should be part of my 300,000 settlement allowance. Is this standard procedure or should I be reimbursed? Second I set up a bank account with Busan National Bank and I have a ATM card. Can I check my balance at any bank in Busan that is not Busan National Bank, like KEB for example? Thanks in advance for any information. If it matters I work at a public school through EPIK.
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Tobias



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Suck it up Reply with quote

That 130K is part of the 300K. That's what a 'settlement allowance' is. It's bank you use to get settled in. Sounds like they were pretty generous, and I know I wouldn't be complaining.

Yes, you can check your bank balance at another bank, but the ATM you use must have an 'English' key you can first push. It's this or you bring along a translator.
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pootle



Joined: 05 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Two questions about pay any help appreciated. Reply with quote

It's my understanding that your accommodation is free from the minute you walk out of the airport and make contact with your school. If they made you stay in a hotel because they were not prepared for you then that is their problem, not yours, so the hotel bill should be paid by the school or by EPIK and should not come out of your settlement allowance.

Get in touch with your EPIK contact and see what they say. the settlement allowance is supposed to be for household goods and other things you need to set up home when you get here. I spent my first week at an education official's house because my apartment wasn't ready - they have to take responsibility for housing you. I'm also with the EPIK programme.

BTW, there is a clause in your EPIK contract that states the bare minimum of appliances and other household goods the school must provide you with. Check it and make sure your school doesn't try to screw you on that issue too.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pootle is right. They didn't have an apartment for either, but they did pay for a motel room for the 1st week and a half. I was glad to get out of that love motel due to all the people walking around all night noise as well as loud parties.

The cost did NOT come out of my 300,000 settlement allowance which I spent on things like laundry detergent, soap, towels, mop, bleach, and other things.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hotel should NOT come out of your 300k settlement.

That money is for the things that they don't provide (in the contract list) and you need for setting up your apartment (like bedding).

Also, you should have received that 300k within the 1st week of arriving at your school.

If they want to take the hotel costs from your 300k, complain to your EPIK liaison or through NIIED.

This is one fight you WANT to pick with your new school.

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Tobias



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to pile on, but ttompatz is absolutely right, and Tobias is dead wrong.

The school is contractually obligated to provide accommodation. If the apartment isn't ready, it's the school's responsibility to provide and pay for temporary lodging.

The school should not touch any part of the (contractually specified) 300,000 won settlement allowance, which is available to the teacher to use at his/her discretion to purchase things he/she needs to get settled.
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Dances With Wolves



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So my co-teacher informs me today that the 130,000 won I spent on a 3 night hotel stay when I first arrived, because my apartment was not ready, will not be reimbursed. My question is how far should i take this and what should my next course of action be? As always thanks in advance.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it to the EPIK coordinator. As ttompatz said, this is a fight you need to deal with. Not just because it's 130,000 won, but because if your relationship starts with you bending over and holding your butt cheeks open, it will continue to get worse....a lot worse. And before anyone says, "How bad could it get?", when it comes to cheating people out of money and all around idiocy, Koreans put Edgar Allen Poe's and Stephen King's combined imaginations to shame.

That said though, a question. Are you the first foreigner they have dealt with? If so, go gentle on them. They may just be misinterpreting the rules. If you're not, F-em, fry 'em hot and hard.
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Dances With Wolves



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i am the first foreigner at my school, and generally i am pleased with my situtation. With that said i do not want to feel like i am "spreading my cheeks" as you stated. I just want to be fair as i expect them to be fair to me. Can anyone else 2nd what poet is saying?
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Suck it up Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:
That 130K is part of the 300K. That's what a 'settlement allowance' is. It's bank you use to get settled in. Sounds like they were pretty generous, and I know I wouldn't be complaining.



You'd be a fool not to complain. The allowance should be used to buy things for your apartment.
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nate2008



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just contact your EPIK advisor, try talking to Jean Lim and see what she says. Also, what city are you in?
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I_Am_The_Kiwi



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

100% talk to your contact at EPIK. They 300K they gave you is NOT for a hotel. Its for you to buy your first groceries, anything extra you need in your apartment.

The fact they didnt have a place ready is THEIR problem not yours and you shouldnt be expected to pay for it.

Dont let this slide, its 130K man, thats a nice piece of money
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KYC



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dances With Wolves wrote:
Yes i am the first foreigner at my school, and generally i am pleased with my situtation. With that said i do not want to feel like i am "spreading my cheeks" as you stated. I just want to be fair as i expect them to be fair to me. Can anyone else 2nd what poet is saying?


You are expecting them to play fair, and trust me..they are not. They will push you to see how far they can get away with certain things. It's your battle. If you're willing to let this slide, expect further problems later on.

FYI, my replacement came almost a month before my contract finished. My previous school not only paid for her hotel expenses, they were pretty generous with other things as well.
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Dances With Wolves



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the reponses, i am in Busan fyi.
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