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irwinpryce
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 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: UK folks - weigh in here... |
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On another thread somebody stated that there is a difference between Great Britain and the United Kingdom. I understand that England is often confused with United Kingdom, but what's the difference between the former pair?
Asking 'cause I'd like to know. |
Great Britain is the island composed of England, Wales and Scotland.
The UK is the above plus Northern Ireland. |
Wrong, with a passport issued in Northern Ireland for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland it says Nationality- British. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: UK folks - weigh in here... |
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| irwinpryce wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
| ReeseDog wrote: |
On another thread somebody stated that there is a difference between Great Britain and the United Kingdom. I understand that England is often confused with United Kingdom, but what's the difference between the former pair?
Asking 'cause I'd like to know. |
Great Britain is the island composed of England, Wales and Scotland.
The UK is the above plus Northern Ireland. |
Wrong, with a passport issued in Northern Ireland for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland it says Nationality- British. |
So what?
People living on Tristan da Cuhna who have never set foot in Great Britian are also 'British'
The countries that compose the island of Great Britian are England, Scotland and Wales - + Northern Ireland and it is then the United Kingdom.
As if life isn't hard enough! |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: UK folks - weigh in here... |
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| irwinpryce wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
| ReeseDog wrote: |
On another thread somebody stated that there is a difference between Great Britain and the United Kingdom. I understand that England is often confused with United Kingdom, but what's the difference between the former pair?
Asking 'cause I'd like to know. |
Great Britain is the island composed of England, Wales and Scotland.
The UK is the above plus Northern Ireland. |
Wrong, with a passport issued in Northern Ireland for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland it says Nationality- British. |
No, I am absolutely correct actually.
Great Britain is the larger of the two main islands of the British Isles, the largest island in Europe and the ninth-largest island in the world (Great Britain is also the third most populated island on earth). It is also the second richest island in the world (after Japan) with the world's 5th largest economy and 58 million people. It lies to the northwest of Continental Europe, with Ireland to the west, and makes up the largest part of the territory of the country known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It is surrounded by over 1,000[2] smaller islands and islets.
England, Scotland and Wales are mostly situated on the island, along with their capital cities, London, Edinburgh and Cardiff respectively. |
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pootle
Joined: 05 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: UK folks - weigh in here... |
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There is no such nationality as United Kingdomish, so we're all British whether we like it or not. You can say you're English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish if you like but a lot of official forms don't give you those options.
In some places, if you don't put down your nationality exactly as it appears in your passport they'll get confused and you will be waiting at the airport/border post for a veeeeery long time. |
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waggo
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: |
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During the world cup, I met a Pakistani ,born and bred in London wearing an Irish shirt....He was supporting Denmark....He said he was ABE which apparently (amongst the Celts) means ANYONE BUT ENGLAND.....what an Idiot!! hahahah.
I was interested to hear that since peace has broken out in Northern Ireland there has been a surge in recruits of Southern Irish into the British Army....Actually I was very surprised....But the British army has always had a slight mercenary feel about it. Wellingtons army i believe was 40% Irish (although this was due to economic/ potato related reasons more than to a duty to King George). |
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ed4444
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| Wellingtons army i believe was 40% Irish (although this was due to economic/ potato related reasons more than to a duty to King George). |
This might have been another factor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Wellington
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| The Dukedom of Wellington, derived from Wellington in Somerset, is an hereditary title and the senior rank in the Peerage of the United Kingdom. The first holder of the title was Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington (1769�1852), the noted Irish-born British career officer and statesman, and unqualified references to the Duke of Wellington almost always refer to him. He is most famous for, together with Bl�cher, defeating Napoleon at Waterloo. The Wellesley family are, in origin, an Anglo-Irish aristocratic dynasty |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| waggo wrote: |
During the world cup, I met a Pakistani ,born and bred in London wearing an Irish shirt....He was supporting Denmark....He said he was ABE which apparently (amongst the Celts) means ANYONE BUT ENGLAND.....what an Idiot!! hahahah.
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You aren't obviously English or know about the culture of football in the country. England alienated a lot of the country by playing exclusively in London for over 50 years. A lot of people - rightly or wrongly - see England as a 'London' team. England had a surfeit of brilliant managers who never got chosen to lead the national side. Paisley and Clough are two examples. I'm from the north west and I know probably one person who gives a stuff if England win or lose. Most people I know support another team - Spain (especially around Liverpool) the Republic of Ireland is also a popular one as a lot of English people have at least one Irish grandparent and Brazil.
Ethnic minorities - like the Pakistani gentleman in your post - will have watched England games and heard the monkey chanting, the blatant racism from their 'fans' the rioting and of course aren't going to support the team - and why should they when they hear former England fans favourite 'I rather be a paki than a kraut'
The culture of the English fanbase is changing slowly - but it is changing and for the better! Thank God! |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ed4444 wrote: |
| waggo wrote: |
| Wellingtons army i believe was 40% Irish (although this was due to economic/ potato related reasons more than to a duty to King George). |
This might have been another factor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Wellington
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| The Dukedom of Wellington, derived from Wellington in Somerset, is an hereditary title and the senior rank in the Peerage of the United Kingdom. The first holder of the title was Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington (1769�1852), the noted Irish-born British career officer and statesman, and unqualified references to the Duke of Wellington almost always refer to him. He is most famous for, together with Bl�cher, defeating Napoleon at Waterloo. The Wellesley family are, in origin, an Anglo-Irish aristocratic dynasty |
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Interesting,but not the reason....they needed the money! |
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RufusW
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Location: Busan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| I know probably one person who gives a stuff if England win or lose. Most people I know support another team - Spain (especially around Liverpool) the Republic of Ireland is also a popular one as a lot of English people have at least one Irish grandparent and Brazil. |
Sorry, I can't believe this, surely the majority of people in the north-west support England when they play. |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| I know probably one person who gives a stuff if England win or lose. Most people I know support another team - Spain (especially around Liverpool) the Republic of Ireland is also a popular one as a lot of English people have at least one Irish grandparent and Brazil. |
Sorry, I can't believe this, surely the majority of people in the north-west support England when they play. |
It is a complete load of tosh. When England start playing well for a change there is no other event (outside a good old fashioned war) which gets the country going. |
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ReeseDog
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Sooo... there's disagreement about the original post. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
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| I know probably one person who gives a stuff if England win or lose. Most people I know support another team - Spain (especially around Liverpool) the Republic of Ireland is also a popular one as a lot of English people have at least one Irish grandparent and Brazil. |
Sorry, I can't believe this, surely the majority of people in the north-west support England when they play. |
Its true - most of the people I know (and I know a lot of people) support another country - usually the Republic of Ireland or Scotland (I myself support Wales!) this is usually ancestoral.
If they don't support another country then their interest in England is passive at best. They get enthusiastic when the world cup is on and England do well but no-one (and I mean no-one) goes down to London to watch England play and when they lose - nobody really cares.
What you will hear a lot of is 'I don't care if England don't win another game but I want Liverpool/Man Utd/Man City/Everton to do well' |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| waggo wrote: |
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| I know probably one person who gives a stuff if England win or lose. Most people I know support another team - Spain (especially around Liverpool) the Republic of Ireland is also a popular one as a lot of English people have at least one Irish grandparent and Brazil. |
Sorry, I can't believe this, surely the majority of people in the north-west support England when they play. |
It is a complete load of tosh. When England start playing well for a change there is no other event (outside a good old fashioned war) which gets the country going. |
Is it? Where are you from Waggo? I am from the north west of England!  |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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So youre basically a Welsh tosser then.
Enjoy your hard fought defeats.
England 4 - Croatia 1 |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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So youre basically a Welsh tosser then.
Enjoy your hard fought defeats.
England 4 - Croatia 1 |
We did as well as you away to Russia - a 2-1 defeat. 
It can't be easy being England thinking you are going to win
the world cup every 4 years and effing it up! One day in your childrens
lifetime maybe! |
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