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irwinpryce



Joined: 30 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Phone calls to students for English practice Reply with quote

Hi,
I currently work in a Kindergarten Hagwon and am less tan satisfied with it. I have to work 40 hours a week, 30 hours of which are for teaching with the rest left as prep time (I must remain on site.)

I have had a few issues with my emplyer, late pay e.t.c.

I am not teaching a full 30 hours a week, as they don't have the classes for this. This morning I was told that I must spend 2 afternoons a week phoning the students to talk in English to them for 5 minutes each.

There is no mention of this in my contract, and I fail to see how this could classify as 'teaching.' I am not ammused at this request and see it as exploitation, a degrading gimmick marketing tool. It seems very strange.

Can I refuse? Is this normal? Does anyone else do this?

Thanks
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plynx



Joined: 03 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's not specifically written in your contract, but your contract might perhaps (as most do) mention that you have a to perform a range of duties pertaining to teaching. calling your students is one of them. i do the same thing - once a month, for two days, five minutes per student. if this is a fight you'd really like to pick, then have at it. but if your employer is paying you late and you have additional problems, i'd say there are more important issues at hand.
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plynx



Joined: 03 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and judging from your other post, you seem to really want to get out of working your hours. why did you sign this particular contract?
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irwinpryce



Joined: 30 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really was all I could get, I tried for loads of jobs and they all refused me because of my accent.

The contract semmed fair at the time, however the problems I have with my job relate to my employer not sticking to the contract, and my growing dislike for young Korean children. (2 things I did not realise prior to singing.)

The contract makes no mention of phone calls, and does not have any clause which they could fall back on.

B.T.W With regards to my other post, read the part where I quoted the contract, there is nothing written about putting in an extra 10 hours prep time.

Thanks for your interest and help anyway.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

irwinpryce wrote:
It really was all I could get, I tried for loads of jobs and they all refused me because of my accent.

The contract seemed fair at the time, however the problems I have with my job relate to my employer not sticking to the contract, and my growing dislike for young Korean children. (2 things I did not realize prior to singing.)

The contract makes no mention of phone calls, and does not have any clause which they could fall back on.

B.T.W With regards to my other post, read the part where I quoted the contract, there is nothing written about putting in an extra 10 hours prep time.

Thanks for your interest and help anyway.


Bite your tongue, bide your time, get a complete new set of documents, wait till you hit 6 months and leave.
Stop by the immigration office, tell them you quit because of pay problems and get your exit order.
Look for a new job (PS aren't worried about your accent - unless you absolutely demand to work in Seoul).
Do your visa run and start work.
Ps's are not a bed of roses but they are usually much better than what you appear to be enduring now.

The alternative is just wait till you get paid and the next day head for Japan, Taiwan or China. (don't bother giving notice - I strongly believe that you will NOT be paid for any work after you do).

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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh you just brought up a pile a horrible memories. For little kids who are beginners it is just so pointless. See if you can get the kid to sing you a song you taught them to help kill the time.
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bobranger



Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Location: masan

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide to do it, make sure there is some sort of material to cover. Insist they buy a book (let's go series is good because it has a lot of pictures) do a page a day. Make some more demands and maybe they will back off. If you want to be really crafty record your lesson and just play it over the phone. No need to listen to thier responses. btw what is the accent?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I don't want to phone students."

End of story.
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Sadebugo1



Joined: 11 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is nothing more humiliating than being 30-something, calling up one of your young students, having his mother answer, and then saying "Is Batman there?" All our students had nicknames and we had to use them. Ahhh, those were the days.

Sadebugo
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ckub



Joined: 28 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My situation is exactly the same as the OP. At first, I even taught he was one of my colleague! Anyway, starting next wee this phone teaching thing. I'm just afraid the children won't be able to even follow the script we will give them. Anyway, we'll see how it goes... Not very happy about losing some of my prep time to do this but I can't say no.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadebugo1 wrote:
There is nothing more humiliating than being 30-something, calling up one of your young students, having his mother answer, and then saying "Is Batman there?"

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad (goddamn that was the best laugh I've had in ages... dammit, now I'm crying and my stomach hurts)
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StrayCat



Joined: 13 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adult phoning little kids and pestering them! I can see the headlines now. What are you gonna discuss with the tiny tots, play dates?

You must be a young and inexperienced 'teacher' to even consider it. At least you put it on this board. No, don't 'bide your time'. As one poster has already said; just say no. End of story.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ckub wrote:
I'm just afraid the children won't be able to even follow the script we will give them

Don't worry. You'll spend more time on the phone fighting with halmoni (wondering who this person is that is not speaking Korean) than you will with the kid. Provided of course, he's actually home and not at another hagwon.

Quote:
but I can't say no.

Of course you can.
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