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We need more feminazis in town-planning!
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: We need more feminazis in town-planning! Reply with quote

Oh yes.

Why is there always a queue for the ladies?

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Why is there always a queue for the ladies? Why is it so hard to find a nursery near the office? Because our urban spaces have always been designed by men for men.
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mises



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry. You can convert to islam and get your ass kicked and 1/3 the inheritance. It is progressive, I'm told.
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kotakji



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article, but other then the bathroom size allocation which I suppose could have some merit in the spirit of efficiency, it seems like the problems are not male vs. female but rather child-rearing individual vs. single/absentee parent.


OK I suppose there is the issue of seat size, but lets be honest, the difference between a size 42 butt and a size 44 butt probably doesn't warrant a need for a investigative commission.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should we leave it to just town planning. We need fema-Nazi's Everywhere. Men do nothing but create war. They should all be forcably Castorated. Meat should be banned. Everyone should be forced to eat tofu. Meditate, Do Yoga. Hold politically correct opinions, Hate George Bush.
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mises



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, in a week where muslim women in the UK are downgraded below non-muslims is a post like the OP merely a representation that the current wave of feminism merely represents the pedestrian (in this case, literally) concerns of middle class, white women as the expense of the others? I think so. They don't have the figurative balls to deal with the real issues that face (mostly non-white) womyn. It is useless.
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Cornfed



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They realised that where they were located was no good for anyone wanting to combine work and home [...] Many of the problems of urban planning simply reflect women's domestic inequality: the fact that women still do the bulk of childcare

Surely these problems could be better solved by firing whiney women form their jobs and replacing them with reliable men and forbidding women from coming into contact with children respectively � both of which would reap huge economic and social benefits.

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"If you want to know the true position of women in society look at the queue for the ladies' loo,"

Yep, you wouldn't want to get hung up on trivialities such as the stats for homelessness, imprisonment, industrial accidents, custody battles, murder and suicide victims, people who get killed or maimed in wars etc.
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doc_ido



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't get the feeling that urban planning was specifically sexist (intentionally or not), more that it had some pretty strange priorities (mentioned in the article when it said that areas had been built around cars). However, as long as women are doing the majority of child care and combining work/home life more I guess this translates to the same thing. Wink

What I would really like to see an end to is the car-intensive school run. All those extra cars on the road make the buses late!

With regard to toilets, my workplace has an innovative solution - there are separate toilets and primping rooms, so that people who need to relieve themselves can be in and out without jostling for space with other people just hanging out and doing their hair/makeup. I believe that there is also more stall space in the ladies, but am not about to try and confirm this.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Don't worry. You can convert to islam and get your ass kicked and 1/3 the inheritance. It is progressive, I'm told.


And mises takes the lead in the "Who would be the most annoying party guest?" race. Where is IGTG when you need her?
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
mises wrote:
Don't worry. You can convert to islam and get your ass kicked and 1/3 the inheritance. It is progressive, I'm told.


And mises takes the lead in the "Who would be the most annoying party guest?" race. Where is IGTG when you need her?


He also scores rather highly on "the most ironic avatar" chart.
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The avatar is from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which you might want to read up on. Though, given that it is only muslim women who are now legal to beat, I suppose you won't care.

Feminism, or this wave of feminism, is solely concerned with the pedestrian concerns of white, middle class, post-Christian and Christian women. If the British government had stolen from white, middle class, post-Christian and Christian women the right for their abusive husbands to be punished in the legal system you would be jumping out of your Birkenstocks with severe anger. George Bush doesn't care about black people? Maybe, maybe. Feminists don't care about brown women. Fundamentalist liberals like myself do.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not really talking to me. You're just talking to a person you have invented for yourself. No point addressing a post that is in fact written to an imaginary person.

PS: you might want to check up the meaning of dogma, old chap. Wink
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
The avatar is from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which you might want to read up on.


Right. Dogma. The anti-religious kind.
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure. Whatever you want to call it. Imaginary friends out of public policy. I'll be dogmatic on that.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Sure. Whatever you want to call it. Imaginary friends out of public policy. I'll be dogmatic on that.


So you're not against dogma, per se. Just their dogma.

Big Bird and I are just tired of the culture warz, is all, and she couldn't help notice the irony of your avater.
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is only ironic if you play the theological "I know you are but what am I" game.
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