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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Profiting from a Housing Allowance Reply with quote

Let's say my public school offers me 400,000 won a month as a housing allowance.

I take the housing allowance.

I pay 240,000 won a month for my 고시원 that gives me my rice and kimchi for free.

I keep the remaining 160,000 won a month.

Voila, $1666.56 in extra income every year without lifting a finger!

Or is there a reason I can't do this?
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly b/c your math sucks and you should be investing it in lessons? At the current rate, 160,000 is only about $138.
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
Possibly b/c your math sucks and you should be investing it in lessons? At the current rate, 160,000 is only about $138.
Yes, and $138*12 months in a year=$1656

That's basically what I had.

Looks like YOU need some math lessons, hotshot!
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ben-ja-mas



Joined: 20 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't see what the problem can be, reckon you can go ahead and do it.

Hey kprrok you made a right a.ss of yourself there.
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben-ja-mas wrote:
Don't see what the problem can be, reckon you can go ahead and do it.
Cool.
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Hey kprrok you made a right a.ss of yourself there.
Haha, yeah, he sure did. Hey kprrok, I got a Korean phrase that's perfect for you! 빈 수레가 요란하다! Ask your Korean friends what it means! Laughing
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can get 8 hours of overtime a month, then you could get a nicer place. Goshiwons aren't that good. I stayed at a goshitel in August. I couldn't stand it and got out as soon as I could.

However, add into all this savings, like free internet connection and no utility bills or monthly administration/maintenance costs that you would be paying for at an apartment.
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jadarite wrote:
If you can get 8 hours of overtime a month, then you could get a nicer place. Goshiwons aren't that good. I stayed at a goshitel in August. I couldn't stand it and got out as soon as I could.
Point taken, I live in one and they basically never run the air conditioning, so all the guys lounge around in their underwear, with the doors wide open for ventilation. Not to mention it's smaller than the handicap bathroom stall at Yonsei University KLI (not joking).
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However, add into all this savings, like free internet connection and no utility bills or monthly administration/maintenance costs that you would be paying for at an apartment.
Exactly, that's why I want to do it. They also provide all-you-can-use rice, kimchi, cooking oil, laundry detergent, etc. I figure that if I put all the things together separately that you're mentioning and all the things I just listed, that'd cost a couple thousand extra right there. Plus I'm going out with a 30-year-old Japanese oral hygienist who lives on the floor below mine. So for now, I'm relatively content with my 고시원. That's why I'd like to stay and take the savings. Laughing
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So maybe instead of picking on the OPs apparent lack of math skills (I admit I did misread the number as a monthly savings instead of yearly, I've been looking at Korean won figures too much), I could pick on the general lack of logic.

Let's see, the exchange rate will certainly change. We have no idea what it will be. So posting a potential yearly savings in a currency your salary is not paid in is pretty pointless when that currency exchange rate changes daily. Posting a yearly "bonus" in the currency that you are paid in would be much more logical and practical.

160,000원 may not be worth $100 next month or 6 months from now. It may be worth $200 dollars next month or 6 months from now. Basically, it was still a silly way to write it.

Of course, after reading the posts that followed, I can see more clearly about the OP. Best of luck.
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
So maybe instead of picking on the OPs apparent lack of math skills (I admit I did misread the number as a monthly savings instead of yearly, I've been looking at Korean won figures too much), I could pick on the general lack of logic.
Or maybe you could just quit picking on anything and stop digging yourself into a hole?
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rooster_2006 wrote:
kprrok wrote:
So maybe instead of picking on the OPs apparent lack of math skills (I admit I did misread the number as a monthly savings instead of yearly, I've been looking at Korean won figures too much), I could pick on the general lack of logic.

Or maybe you could just quit picking on anything and stop digging yourself into a hole?


Nah, that's no fun. I've realised its that most of the situations people get themselves into are probably their own faults.

I've been slowly transitioning from a helpful poster to an apologist for the past few months. It makes surfing here when I'm bored much more interesting and entertaining! I'll still help out where I can, but I'm looking for entertainment!
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So for less than 2 grand over the course of a year, you want to muddy your stay in a foreign country by residing in a hole? To each their own, I guess; priorities clearly differ. If you just graduated from college, maybe 140 bucks a month seems like a lot. It's not, and it's not worth sacrificing your comfort and peace of mind for.
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
So for less than 2 grand over the course of a year, you want to muddy your stay in a foreign country by residing in a hole?
My stay has already been muddied in the 4+ years that I've lived here, so I'm not too concerned with whether other posters (who in many cases haven't lived here as long as I have) think a 고시원 is habitable. It is. I know I'm cool with living in a 고시원, that's not the issue. You don't just save the monthly rent, you also, as jadarite put it, get free internet, no utility bills, and in my 고시원, you get free food. So it's probably more like a savings of $3,000 or $4,000 per year. Doesn't sound so bad now, does it?

So can someone just tell me if the employer pays my housing allowance out to me, or if he pays it directly to the place where I'm staying? If it's the former, this will work, if it's the latter, I wouldn't be able to pocket that money.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had both...employer paid the housing directly my 2nd year here, but my employer pays me at my current school.

Just remember that any housing allowance paid directly to you is taxable.
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rooster_2006



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
I've had both...employer paid the housing directly my 2nd year here, but my employer pays me at my current school.

Just remember that any housing allowance paid directly to you is taxable.
Thanks, kprrok. Very Happy
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stayed in one of those places for 2 weeks. I was supposed to stay for a month and paid upfront.
I could not handle it. Too small. Too hot. Too smelly. Too weird.
Quality of life is more important than money.
If you want to have a bit more money is your pocket after the year is finished, do some privates.
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