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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hey OP. You're a cliche:
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada/
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Often times, white people get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Canada.
For example, if you are watching TV with white people and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare �ok, that�s it, I�m moving to Canada.�
Though they will never actually move to Canada, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in white culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.
Within white culture, it is agreed upon that if Canada had better weather it would be a perfect place.
Being aware that this information can be used quite easily to gain the trust of white people. Whenever they say, �I�m moving to Canada,� you must immediately respond with �I have relatives in Canada.�
They will then expect you to tell them about how Canada has a perfect healthcare system, legalized everything, and no crime. Though not true, it will reassure them that they are making the right choice by saying they want to move there.
But be warned, they will reference you in future conversations and possibly call on you to settle disputes about Canadian tax rates. So use this advice only if you plan to do some basic research.
Note: Canadian white people threaten to move to Europe.
Note: Europeans are unable to threaten to move anywhere. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The canadian liberal party sucks. BIG TIME. |
In other words, you are from the prairies.
The conservative party is no better.
The Praires go conservative, East coast Liberal. The only province in the whole country clearly divided in its opinion is B.C. where three parties took a significant number of seats in the last federal election.
The fact is Canada will continue to have minority governments as long as Ontario mistrusts the conservatives and Quebec votes for the Bloc. |
I am from BC. Not the Prairies. I'm not exactly enarmoured with the conservatives either. But the liberals do suck and Chretien was a horrible Prime Minister. Maybe not horrible but fairly bad. Any party the lets Hedy Fry (was that her name) become the minister of anything needs to have their heads examined. |
Dr. Hedy Fry is a popular politician in her Vancouver riding, so much so that when a popular NDPer switched ridings to go head-to-head against her, he was destroyed. She owns her riding and will win a 6th time this fall.
Fry is a doctor who served as president of the British Columbia Federation of Medical Women in 1977. She was president of the Vancouver Medical Association in 1988-89, the BC Medical Association in 1990-91, and chaired the Canadian Medical Association's Multiculturalism Committee in 1992-9. Fry was also a host on the nationally televised CBC's Doctor Doctor. She has served cabinet level posts in immigration, multiculturalism and health and welfare. What invalidates her from having been considered for a cabinet post? Her Trinidadian accent as an immigrant? I don't get it. Sure she made mistakes AFTER becoming a minister. She may have mixed up Prince George with Merritt when taking about the KKK, but her concern about narrow-minded rural bigots stand.
The conservative party has a half dozen whack jobs "let the black guy work in the back of the shop if a racist customer doesn't like it". And that major f-up Stockwell Day still has his B.C. riding and place in the conservative insiders' circle.
B.C. will always vote NDP and/or Liberal, that is NOT conservative, in several of its more urban ridings. The Conservatives might hang onto some of its impressive half of the ridings in primarily rural B.C. |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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How that woman became a doctor I will never know. Have you ever heard her speak? She came and spoke to one of my history classes at university. After she finished every left thinking she was an idiot. One student commented that he/she was in favour of government spending on multicultural projects. Dr. Fry Enthusiastically claimed that that was what the liberal government was doing. Then another student said that he/she didn't want his/her tax dollars going to support multicultural projects. Guess what Dr. Fry said? She agreed with the second student and said that was the direction that the government was heading.
She also worships Trudeau to much to be taken seriously.
Anyways, like I said I am not enarmoured with the conservatives. They have their idiots. Frankly though I think they are a lesser evil than the liberals. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| It doesn't seem to be easy for American citizens to just move up to Canada unless they have lots of money and a business thing going on. Canada doesn't offer jobs to foreigners like the USA does. |
Being almost entirely unfamiliar with Canada's immigration laws, nevertheless I'm willing to gamble than an American will have an easier time with it in Canada than almost any other nationality has getting a job in the USA.
You have to realize that NAFTA makes it a lot easier on Canadians coming to the US and vice versa than it normally would be. Canadians, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a) being a native English speaker and b) having a degree from an American university really give you a lot of points in the Canadian immigration system? |
That depends. I remember my sister was offered quite a few golf scholarships to American schools, but after checking the schools out she found out that over half of the degrees wouldn't be recognized in Canada.
Also, it is not easy for Canadians to go to the States. My best friend got his degree in the US, has an American wife and it still took him well over a year (almost two) to finally be granted a work VISA. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| It doesn't seem to be easy for American citizens to just move up to Canada unless they have lots of money and a business thing going on. Canada doesn't offer jobs to foreigners like the USA does. You'd probably be better off going to the USA instead if American to retrain into a new career such as a skilled trade. I debating what I want to do as I do not want to be a teacher and do not want to spend my life in Asia. It is true that things are looking for the worse when it comes to the economy and job market back home so I'm not sure how that's going to play out for us when we repatriate. |
Want to make it back home! no problem.
Find a phone book. Look in the blue pages. Look under Social Services. Book a home visit. No problem easy peasy. Just make sure you drain all the funds out of your account. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
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| It doesn't seem to be easy for American citizens to just move up to Canada unless they have lots of money and a business thing going on. Canada doesn't offer jobs to foreigners like the USA does. You'd probably be better off going to the USA instead if American to retrain into a new career such as a skilled trade. I debating what I want to do as I do not want to be a teacher and do not want to spend my life in Asia. It is true that things are looking for the worse when it comes to the economy and job market back home so I'm not sure how that's going to play out for us when we repatriate. |
Want to make it back home! no problem.
Find a phone book. Look in the blue pages. Look under Social Services. Book a home visit. No problem easy peasy. Just make sure you drain all the funds out of your account. |
They don't give you that much. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| sojourner1 wrote: |
| It doesn't seem to be easy for American citizens to just move up to Canada unless they have lots of money and a business thing going on. Canada doesn't offer jobs to foreigners like the USA does. You'd probably be better off going to the USA instead if American to retrain into a new career such as a skilled trade. I debating what I want to do as I do not want to be a teacher and do not want to spend my life in Asia. It is true that things are looking for the worse when it comes to the economy and job market back home so I'm not sure how that's going to play out for us when we repatriate. |
Want to make it back home! no problem.
Find a phone book. Look in the blue pages. Look under Social Services. Book a home visit. No problem easy peasy. Just make sure you drain all the funds out of your account. |
They don't give you that much. |
Unless you have lots of kids |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: Re: How are things in Canada?? |
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So, how's the political landscape looking back in Canada? |
dude just shot a puppy ㅠㅠ
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/09/15/bc-quadra-dog-shot.html
Nasty story, for sure. This is front page national news for us, even during an election. That's your Canadian political landscape...not that many people really care that much, as I recall.
But, from 'slate,' here's a pretty good piece about 'why canada isn't nice any more' or something like that.
http://slate.com/id/2199929/
make of it what you will... |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| ulsanchris wrote: |
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| ulsanchris wrote: |
| The canadian liberal party sucks. BIG TIME. |
In other words, you are from the prairies.
The conservative party is no better.
The Praires go conservative, East coast Liberal. The only province in the whole country clearly divided in its opinion is B.C. where three parties took a significant number of seats in the last federal election.
The fact is Canada will continue to have minority governments as long as Ontario mistrusts the conservatives and Quebec votes for the Bloc. |
I am from BC. Not the Prairies. I'm not exactly enarmoured with the conservatives either. But the liberals do suck and Chretien was a horrible Prime Minister. Maybe not horrible but fairly bad. Any party the lets Hedy Fry (was that her name) become the minister of anything needs to have their heads examined. |
Dr. Hedy Fry is a popular politician in her Vancouver riding, so much so that when a popular NDPer switched ridings to go head-to-head against her, he was destroyed. She owns her riding and will win a 6th time this fall.
Fry is a doctor who served as president of the British Columbia Federation of Medical Women in 1977. She was president of the Vancouver Medical Association in 1988-89, the BC Medical Association in 1990-91, and chaired the Canadian Medical Association's Multiculturalism Committee in 1992-9. Fry was also a host on the nationally televised CBC's Doctor Doctor. She has served cabinet level posts in immigration, multiculturalism and health and welfare. What invalidates her from having been considered for a cabinet post? Her Trinidadian accent as an immigrant? I don't get it. Sure she made mistakes AFTER becoming a minister. She may have mixed up Prince George with Merritt when taking about the KKK, but her concern about narrow-minded rural bigots stand.
The conservative party has a half dozen whack jobs "let the black guy work in the back of the shop if a racist customer doesn't like it". And that major f-up Stockwell Day still has his B.C. riding and place in the conservative insiders' circle.
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Wow-Fry defeated the convicted and self confessed emotinal wreck Svend Robinson-color me impressed.
Svend Robinson is not eligible to teach in Korea-stop stealing things, and maybe you'd have beaten a lightweight and public disgrace like Fry, Svend! |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
Wow-Fry defeated the convicted and self confessed emotinal wreck Svend Robinson-color me impressed.
Svend Robinson is not eligible to teach in Korea-stop stealing things, and maybe you'd have beaten a lightweight and public disgrace like Fry, Svend! |
Svend Robinson is still much liked in the Vancouver area, he simply put his gay activism against another human rights activist who has the feminist and immigrant vote on his side. Svend was elected and served in parliament for 25 straight (pun) years and he would win again if he got his act back together and returned to my birth town in nearby Burnaby.
A couple of years in politics is forever, people forgive and forget, especially in B.C., where some really rocky politics have seen people bounce back time and again.
Fry is a heavyweight in her riding. Unless the Mandarin-speaking quadriplegic mayor of Vancouver decides to go federal and contests her head-on, she can serve a couple of more decades. She is no lightweight.
There isn't a conservative member of parliament with enough gumption and weight to take her on.
Canada is a nation of distinctive pockets of political opinion, a quiltwork so to speak, multipolitical on a national scale and always has been, always will be. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: |
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I like Hedy Fry, and i'm from Alberta.
I must admit, that "back of the shop" comment soured me on the old Reformers and the New Conservatives. Also, there was that woman in Winnipeg that made an "Asian Invasion of the Universities" comment too.
Now I don't bother voting. But if I had a gun to my head and told to vote, I'd go either Liberal or Green. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| I like Hedy Fry, and i'm from Alberta. |
I'd bet the farm you're from the Edmonton area.
You'd buy the farm with attitude like that elsewhere in Alberta. (I know what I'm talking about here. I did my undergrad in that province and later returned to work one year as a journalist.) |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:21 am Post subject: |
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I like Hedy Fry, and i'm from Alberta.
I must admit, that "back of the shop" comment soured me on the old Reformers and the New Conservatives. Also, there was that woman in Winnipeg that made an "Asian Invasion of the Universities" comment too.
Now I don't bother voting. But if I had a gun to my head and told to vote, I'd go either Liberal or Green. |
have you ever heard her talk?
Let us not forget the time in parliament where she claimed that even while she was speaking that crosses were being burned in the streets of kamloops. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Let us not forget the time in parliament where she claimed that even while she was speaking that crosses were being burned in the streets of kamloops. |
I am from Kamloops. She said Prince George when in fact the KKK clan leader's activities she was citing had happened a few months before in Merritt. A mix-up. She picked the wrong city from the Interior. The intent of her point was good. Some people made waaay too much of it. A blunder, but minor on the grand scale of Canadian politics. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Was Chretien all that bad? He balanced the budget. That's something no PM has pretty much ever done in modern times. Having not lived in Canada at that time, I can't quite figure out what his high crimes were.
Being here now, Canada is doing okay, compared to the USA. Religion has not invaded politics. I've never seen Harper attend a prayer breakfast and he would lose my vote and many Canadian votes if he did. |
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