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[the_beaver]

A few people have posted antivegetarian stuff on the vegetarian information thread.

Don't do that.

I hate vegetables as much as the next guy, but it's an informational thread, not a debate thread. Debate it here.

I'll start by taking Rteacher's response from that thread:

[joshuahirtle27]

Having my own facebook group (STAB) and t being of the opinion that there is a place for all of God's creatures next to the mashed potatoes I feel I should say that I do enjoy the occasional vegetarian meal. That being said I do not feel that I could comfortable live without meat in my diet. It's not a blood lust (since I cook it thoroughly).

I've posted my opinion on a certain Animal Rights Group (Starts with P and rhymes with ETA) and their recent ads (www.caffeinated-goodness.co.nr) and their opinion on the rights of animals not to be eaten, used for entertainment... etc...

I can eat meals without meat. That's not the problem. The problem is that a lot of vegetarian alternatives are made of TOFU which has all the taste of water and bean curd that one could want in a hamburger. There is nothing wrong with MOST people who don't eat meat... the ones who are douche bags that I have a problem with.

[Newbie]

Very good thread.

Nice to see some semblance of sense and respect here on Dave's.

And vegetarians suck.

[Ruraljuror]

I hate the one's who make it a point that EVERYONE knows they are vegetarian. It's not enough for them to know they are doing a morally good thing (and I must agree that morally speaking vegetarianism is the way to go -- and I'm a meat-eatin' emm eff'er); they must have the approval of everyone they meet.

Here's an example: I don't like Korean Seafood. But often when I'm out with my wife and Korean friends, everyone will want to go to a seafood restaurant. Seeing as how I'm the only person who doesn't want to go there, I just go with the flow, grab a snack at a convenience store, and sit down with everyone else and enjoy the company/soju. I don't whine about how "I don't like seafood!" I don't insist we go to a restaurant that will accomodate me. I go with the flow and then eat a meal that properly satisfies me later when I'm not inconveniencing everyone else.

But certain types of vegetarians (not all) always INSIST on going to a restaurant that accomodates their specific diet, no matter how out of the way or inconvenient it is, and god forbid their whining is over-ruled and the whiner has to sit down and watch everyone eat their delicious, delicious meat...they are so petulant and obnoxious that it ruins the meal for everyone else.

This type of whiny vegetarian is usually a woman. And by usually, I mean always.

[Newbie]

[VanIslander]

"Let the cow eat the grass, and I'll eat the cow" was my father's stock response to vegetarianism. Old school.

[Starla]

I love my meat and I'm not about to stop eating it. Couldn't imagine going to my mom's place and refusing her food because surprise, I'm a vegetarian now! Not eating the food I grew up on that gives me a lot of comfort is kind of insane to me. Food is not just sustenance. It is life and it is history. To enjoy food is to enjoy life.

Most days, I eat only one or perhaps two meals with meat and they're usually small portions not because of the little animals but because a huge slab of meat is too much for me. Tried the whole vegetarian thing once but it's not for me. Couldn't last for a day. I don't care what your eating habits are but I can't stand fussy eaters whether they're meat eaters or not...especially when they refuse my cooking. Eating out is a time to have fun and relax in the company of others. It's not a time to obsess over what's in the food and whether it contains any animal by-products or whatnot.

People say that a vegetarian diet is healthier but I've met A LOT of overweight vegetarians so I'm pretty skeptical of that. I think it's all the additives incorporated into the food to make it filling and palatable. Throwing some meat into the mix would solve that dilemma since it usually fills you up and makes a bland dish flavorful.

[prideofidaho]

Meat does not equal palatable. The fatty nonsense I spooned onto my cafeteria plate today was disgusting, and nowhere near palatable. The seaweed and fermented soy soup on the other hand, yum. That's just my tastebuds though.

I'm not sure that the people who believe that they need to eat meat everyday to feel sated have taken the time to properly research or cook themselves a nice veggie meal. I'll go one step further and say they probably can't cook period. Nah...just kidding. Try it one day...Korea has some of the most delicious tofu I've ever tasted. If you don't like it, then I propose eating less meat. Just look around and think to yourself how many farmed cows or pigs or chickens will be consumed tonight, and explain to me how that is sustainable.

I see that organic meat can be expensive and hard to find, but if you can afford it, do it. When I was home I bought a 12 pound free range organic turkey and it was the most heavenly bird I've ever eaten (that sounded grosser than I meant it to)....but it did cost 50 bucks. Worth every loonie.

[the_beaver]

[prideofidaho]

It's absolutely true that the organic movement should be subject to speculation. It was also mentioned before that highly processed foods are not ideal in terms of health, and I've noticed a vast majority of the 'fad' organic foods are highly processed and thus sketchy at best.

I rarely bought meat from a grocery store back home, preferring rather to befriend a local butcher and buy what was organic, fresh, and locally farmed. I've never bought meat here and cooked it myself...I just don't feel the desire to. So that's what I meant by organic meat.

Organic produce, on the other hand....well, I can't say I've seen a lot of it here (probably due to my poor Korean language skills). I do try to cook mainly with whole ingredients. Save for some cans of soup, pesto, and other junk. And when I cook, there's never any poultry or red meat involved...It's not a conscious decision...just something I notice in myself as doing.

My points are shying away from the animal-rights aspects of vegetarianism. I find those to be too extreme and divisive. I don't really like the idea of killing animals, but for what it's worth, I accept it and participate in it. That's my prerogative. The distinction I make (and for those who want to call me out on being sanctimonious, cool) is between the over consumption of meat and the sustainable consumption of meat.

In terms of the bit about being hungry after eating just veggies, well, I'm not sure I understand what your friend was cooking and referring to as vegetarian. Just because there a 'veg' in the word, doesn't mean it's vegetable-exclusive cooking. There's a multitude of veggies, meat alternatives (tofu, tempeh, etc), legumes, beans, fruit, cheese, fish, seafood, grains, fats and oils...and so on. I don't find that my veggie meals leave me hungry. I wouldn't just eat leafy salad and some random veggies....that would leave me hungry. throw in some tuna, eggs, and baby....you've got a nicoise salad going.

I digress....

[the_beaver]

[Temporary]

Yeah.. Yum to the shity Korean Soy soup..

Except for the fact that. Soy contains fragile proteins which are usually destroyed when processed. Soy has also been linked to elevated Estrogen levels in men. Which can lead to Prostate cancer and other complications in men as well as women.

Are you supprised that Asians on the average have the smallest penises amongst all races?

I rather eat a half roting corpse then dig into Sundubuchigea.. At least I can nuke the corpse and still eat it and get GOOD protein out of it.

[poet13]

mt ex-brother-in-laws' girlfriend was a vegetarian. Thre rest of us LOVED our twitching red meat. At the time, I was the grill cook at Les Halles in Wash DC. I got my meat wholesale, and damn did I eat a lot of it. We used to take the ex-girlfeinds veggie burgers, throw them on the grill, put it on top of a hamburger, put a hamburger on top of that, and cook-squish-cook-squish, until ready. It's funny that she was so impressed at how realistically meaty tasting her veggie burgers were. Fortunately, she finally went back to meat.

[peppermint]

Are you meat eaters really that bored? If I'm not eating meat, doesn't that mean there's more for you?

[the_beaver]