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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Korean "China" Towns - Haha What a Sad, Sad Joke Reply with quote

I had a craving lately for chow mein and fried rice. I was in Shenzhen
for a week a few weeks ago and this is what I had for breakfast most
of the time. So I heard that China Town in Incheon is now pretty good
and the food is great. (I heard this from Koreans) I went there today
and found what looked like a Chinese restaurant. I looked at the menu
and it had all the usual "non-Chinese" Chinese foods that Koreans try and
say is Chinese. (although if you said that garbage was Chinese to a
Chinese chef he would probably chop you up into moo-goo-guy-pan.)
So I asked the waiter/owner if he had chow mein and Chinese fried
rice and he said yes. I asked him again if this was authentic Chinese
food and again he said yes. So I ordered it. When it came the chow
mein was like odaeng(Japanese noodle soup) and the fried rice was
plain rice with a few peas mixed in. I took one look, got up and made
toward the door. He asked me the problem and I said: "THIS IS NOT
CHINESE FOOD" (I said this in Korean.) Anyway he pulled a face,
said something about foreigners and then I walked out. The next
place I went the owner basically told me you can't get Chinese food
in China town ANYWHERE! So I asked where is the Chinese supermarket
so I could buy the ingredients. Guess what? Absolutely none.

So Koreans call this dump "China Town" although there are almost no
Chinese people, no Chinese food and no Chinese products.

KOREA SPARKLING
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to be at Canada Buddy in about 20 minutes if you're up for a brew-it's about time we slammed a few back.
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I went there with my wife and she was seriously pissed at my
performance. So, sorry Crusher, but I'm kinda like grounded tonight.
Geez, I hate being grounded.
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chow mein and fried rice originate from the south of China - and the only reason you find it back home is because most of the Chinese who immigrated to N America and other English speaking countries came from Hong Kong and that region. If you go to your typical restaurant in Tianjin, you'd have the same problem, so I hope you don't yell at that guy and say it ain't Chinese food.

See this thread:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=130300&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and this one:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=133219&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

If you really want the closest thing, go to Ho Lee Chow in Itaewon.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China's a big country. Maybe, just maybe, you're not eating Shenzhen style Chinese food in Incheon.
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crusher_of_heads



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Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
China's a big country. Maybe, just maybe, you're not eating Shenzhen style Chinese food in Incheon.


I'll take the under on the estimation of said restaurant's owner's intelligence given that he made a comment about foreigners.
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aka Dave



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All you need for N. American style Chinese is a ton of oil, soy/sesame oil, garlic/ginger, corn starch/arrowroot, oyster sauce (available) veggies, and pork/beef/shrimp/chicken breast, nuts (almonds/cashews/walnuts etc) and flour/water to make won-ton/pot-stickers.

Now, this may not be real Chinese food, but if you miss the take out from N. America the ingredients are readily available.
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bangbayed



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To make it, you might be able to get the right noodles at the foreign market on the hill in Itaewon. Maybe.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

You aren't in Kansas anymore buddy.

If you want REAL Chinese food, hop on the ferry at Incheon and go to China. Good luck going into a typical Chinese restaurant getting Americanized Chinese food.

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean "China" Towns - Haha What a Sad, Sad Jo Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
I had a craving lately for chow mein and fried rice. I was in Shenzhen
for a week a few weeks ago and this is what I had for breakfast most
of the time. So I heard that China Town in Incheon is now pretty good
and the food is great. (I heard this from Koreans) I went there today
and found what looked like a Chinese restaurant. I looked at the menu
and it had all the usual "non-Chinese" Chinese foods that Koreans try and
say is Chinese. (although if you said that garbage was Chinese to a
Chinese chef he would probably chop you up into moo-goo-guy-pan.)
So I asked the waiter/owner if he had chow mein and Chinese fried
rice and he said yes. I asked him again if this was authentic Chinese
food and again he said yes. So I ordered it. When it came the chow
mein was like odaeng(Japanese noodle soup) and the fried rice was
plain rice with a few peas mixed in. I took one look, got up and made
toward the door. He asked me the problem and I said: "THIS IS NOT
CHINESE FOOD" (I said this in Korean.) Anyway he pulled a face,
said something about foreigners and then I walked out. The next
place I went the owner basically told me you can't get Chinese food
in China town ANYWHERE! So I asked where is the Chinese supermarket
so I could buy the ingredients. Guess what? Absolutely none.

So Koreans call this dump "China Town" although there are almost no
Chinese people, no Chinese food and no Chinese products.

KOREA SPARKLING



What you don't understand is the Chinese food in America is not real Chinese food either, they are Americanized Chinese food.
Chinese food in Korea also not real Chinese food, they are Koreanized Chinese food. The real Chinese food is very different from Chinese food you know and some of real Chinese food smell terrible like some of Korean food, but I love the REAL Chinese food.

Have you been in Mexico ? The real Mexican food in Mexico is totally different with Mexican food in America.

I know Chinese town in Korea is sad story.
Generation ago, many Chinese lived in Korea, but most of them left Korea for another SE Asian countries. Why ?? They couldn't success financially in Korea which they could do in another SE Asian countries.

Chinese control financial sector in many SE Asian countries and that created some conflict with local like Thailand, Indonesia...etc .
The Chinese work harder than another local SE Asian countries, but they can't beat Korean/Japanese, that's why Chinese can't success much in Korea/Japan. I've heard about 20,000 Chinese live in Korea, mainly in Inchon/Seoul.


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milspecs



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why are you expecting authentic Chinese food in Korea? just because its called Chinatown?
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
Actually I went there with my wife and she was seriously pissed at my
performance. So, sorry Crusher, but I'm kinda like grounded tonight.
Geez, I hate being grounded.



Your wife ??
You mean ex-wife Wink
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean "China" Towns - Haha What a Sad, Sad Jo Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:

I know Chinese town in Korea is sad story.
Generation ago, many Chinese lived in Korea, but most of them left Korea for another SE Asian countries. Why ?? They couldn't success financially in Korea which they could do in another SE Asian countries.

Chinese control financial sector in many SE Asian countries and that created some conflict with local like Thailand, Indonesia...etc .
The Chinese work harder than another local SE Asian countries, but they can't beat Korean/Japanese, that's why Chinese can't success much in Korea/Japan. I've heard about 20,000 Chinese live in Korea, mainly in Inchon/Seoul.


Once again Korean propaganda pollutes another mind.
It's not because they couldn't compete, it's because the government placed very restrictive policies on the Chinese to "encourage" them to leave. Like making property ownership, getting loans and getting citizenship difficult. The Chinese were set, or was, the merchant class before the Japanese started to run the show. And after the Japanese left leaders like Lee Seung-Man and Park Jung-Hee knew what was happening in these other countries could happen in Korea, where the Chinese control the finances and the local population would be fighting for crumbs of the economic pie and resent the Chinese.

These policies are questionable when viewed from a western prespective, but I think it was a good thing for the Koreans, and the Japanese, to make it so that their own people would be controlling their own country.
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Gollywog



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Debussy's brain

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they have a Frenchtown in Korea?

I sure would like some nice French food.

How about an Italiantown?
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the OP confusing odaeng with oodong?
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