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tfunk

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Buying a dog/cat in Korea is like buying a prostitute. |
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You are doing them a favor by buying them out of the bar/pet store, but you are also supporting the industry that is causing them to be in bars/pet stores in the first place. |
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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and eating meat is promoting the slaughter of innocent animals.  |
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KOREAN_MAN
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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skconqueror wrote: |
and eating meat is promoting the slaughter of innocent animals.  |
What's your point?
I also think that zoos should be banned. People shouldn't go to zoos in my opinion. No visitors, no zoos. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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PETA is against pet ownership, no? |
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CabbageTownRoyals
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Buying a dog/cat in Korea is like buying a prostitute. |
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tfunk wrote: |
You are doing them a favor by buying them out of the bar/pet store, but you are also supporting the industry that is causing them to be in bars/pet stores in the first place. |
Yup, puppy mills are basically factories with puppy-producing machines - those mothers are never not-pregnant, (all of their lives) Whats worse is the puppies aren't weaned long enough so a lot of them get sick and die anyway, sigh. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. I'm a meat-eater and eat bosintang every once in a while, too. It's one thing to get a new dog b/c it's a pedigree and you want to keep the dog for life. But people, like foreigners, who will only be w/ the animal for a few years, or less, are better off adopting. It's cheaper, it doesn't feed the mills and it's kind to the animals. |
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greedy_bones

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: not quite sure anymore
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:01 am Post subject: |
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KOREAN_MAN wrote: |
skconqueror wrote: |
and eating meat is promoting the slaughter of innocent animals.  |
What's your point?
I also think that zoos should be banned. People shouldn't go to zoos in my opinion. No visitors, no zoos. |
Historically, I'd agree with you, but most modern zoos do more good than harm. In developed countries, animals that are in zoos are born in captivity, not captured from the wild. Zoos also serve a purpose in conservation and research. Granted, very few animals are reintroduced to the wild, but that is an issue with logistics rather than goals.
Zoos are also doing their best to provide adequate environments for their animals as well. For example, Seoul Grand Park, which currently provides substandard facilities for their animals is working to enrich the environment of the animals. (I have no sources for this other than anecdotal evidence. I volunteered there observing hyenas, and a coworker of mine volunteered there working on providing the apes with a more enriching environment.)
The fact of the matter is that while zoos are not as good as the wild, in many cases they are the best alternative. For example, orangutans. In Borneo and Sumatra, the habitats are quickly disappearing, and wild orangutans are often captured for pets and to be put in crappy zoos. They're better off in an adequate zoo in the west than they are in the wild.
*Yes, I know. Many of these claims require proof, but I'm lazy, and if interested, you can go to wikipedia or the websites of any modern zoo. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Buying a dog from a respectable breeder means not supporting puppy mills.
My parents own two Golden Retreivers, and they visited the farm where the dogs are born and raised until they are sold; lots of space, shelter for when it rains or is cold and large fenced in areas for them to run around when the weather is nice. They were $1000 each, but you get what you pay for; well-tempered, sociable, and with no major health problems (yet, although they're a few years old now and so far so good). |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
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cdninkorea wrote: |
Buying a dog from a respectable breeder means not supporting puppy mills.
My parents own two Golden Retreivers, and they visited the farm where the dogs are born and raised until they are sold; lots of space, shelter for when it rains or is cold and large fenced in areas for them to run around when the weather is nice. They were $1000 each, but you get what you pay for; well-tempered, sociable, and with no major health problems (yet, although they're a few years old now and so far so good). |
I agree with that, but I don't know if the same idea applies in Korea. |
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joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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skconqueror wrote: |
and eating meat is promoting the slaughter of innocent animals. :roll: |
Hey i know some dogs that could be guilty of jaywalking and some cats that have murdered some pretty innocent birds. Abu was always stealing in Aladdin... and cows are some of the worlds biggest polluters. Fish flagrantly have sex in our water and don't ge me started on BEARS which are one of the biggest threats to America. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I agree, its a sad affair, I walk past pet stores often and see the poor little dogs in that box in the windows for weeks or months.. what happens to the ones who dont get bought for 400.000won??? hate to think...
I own two beautiful dogs, and I have owned dogs and cats my whole life..
I feel sorry for so many pets who are born into these mills, but lets remember there are so many worse cases from dog owners! abuse! killing for fun! tortue etc.. chit humans throw babies in dumpsters!
best we can do is care for our pets the best we can and give them the best life we can.
I agree ZOO'S are totally wrong! and pet stores keeping little cats or dogs in those tiny boxes is also wrong..
chit the world is wrong hahaaha
Love your pets! becuase they sure love you.. |
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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itaewonguy wrote: |
Love your pets! becuase they sure love you.. |
Not on this board.. it's give them away when they are inconvenient |
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joshuahirtle27

Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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skconqueror wrote: |
itaewonguy wrote: |
Love your pets! becuase they sure love you.. |
Not on this board.. it's give them away when they are inconvenient |
Well I know I"d want to stick them in quarantine for 6 months to bring them to Korea just to NOT be able to take them back home. |
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wsiggins

Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Location: Chuncheon, Gangwon do
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: Advice for finding a Pomeranian Breeder |
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Where can I find a Pomeranian puppy in Korea?? I have moved here permanently and I want to find this specific breed of dog. I would prefer to buy from a breeder but I wouldn�t mind checking out some pet stores as well. If you have seen this breed of dog and know where I can purchase a puppy or a breeder that I can contact please let me know. I live in Chuncheon so I can come to Seoul to look as well. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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skconqueror wrote: |
itaewonguy wrote: |
Love your pets! becuase they sure love you.. |
Not on this board.. it's give them away when they are inconvenient |
yeah so true!! I dont know how anyone could just give them away..
I guess it takes a certain person to throw their child in a trashcan or give them up for adoption! or abuse their children!! etc etc
tell you one thing though I could NEVER EVER give my dogs away! NEVER! |
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