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Kuros
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PBRstreetgang21

Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL--- serving as man's paean to medocrity since 1971!
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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While on the one hand there is the part of me that is thinking a President with an approval rating that low is almost impossible, the other part of me asks:
who the hell are these 17%?
His family and friends cant possibly be 17% of the populace. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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diehards
I wonder what Cheney's ratings would be? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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His family and friends cant possibly be 17% of the populace. |
It can't include his dad because he was a pretty pragmatic guy who agreed to raise taxes when he thought it was the right thing to do.
I know one of the 19%. He's one of my co-workers and he thinks Bush & company have done a pretty good all-around job. He doesn't know of one issue where he disagrees with Bush. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Bush's approval rating isn't as bad as Congress'. One poll for them pegged them at 13% this summer. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Congress always gets low approval ratings. Always. But when you ask the same people about their representative and senators, you get a much different answer.
No matter what Congress's approval rate is, it shouldn't be allowed to distract people from the OP in this thread. Bush has simply failed to act in an inspiring way, according to all but 19% of the public. That is a devastating number. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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I said years ago that Bush should be impeached and sent home with a negative bank account and no golden parachute as it was not hard to tell he is the worst president in history.
What if America decided to hold him accountable for financial and war crimes? They'd be doing right.
What if the American people get tired of plutocracy and decide to shut down the government and system by walking off their jobs and marching on the capital demanding a fair and equitable country system? I believe they need to just shut the economy down by leaving their jobs, quit paying bills, and physically go to the capital by the millions. We need change and we have freedom of speech, but no ones listening until we do go to dramatic lengths to enforce change. Democracy is about letting the people change government to enable it to best serve the country, but we have a system of plutocracy instead of democracy.
They couldn't do anything more right than this at this point in time.
Plutocracy where the rich control to serve the rich fails the people. It's high time the people stand up for freedom and democracy. |
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Kuros
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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sojourner1 wrote: |
What if America decided to hold him accountable for financial and war crimes? They'd be doing right. |
The President is protected by Absolute Immunity from prosecution related to his discharge of duties of the Executive Office.
See Sovereign Immunity. |
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PBRstreetgang21

Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL--- serving as man's paean to medocrity since 1971!
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Well I will say this, previous to being President, W ran the only three companies he had into the ground, and sold Sammy Sosa when he was on the TX Rangers. As Gov of TX he executed more people than any governor in history, so what he is leaving behind as President is his consistent message of being succesful-- at failure. But consistently failing is constantly succeeding right? right? |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Almost everyone can count on loyal allies from one quarter or another. Even R. Nixon still had "the China lobby" just before he resigned. |
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Gatsby
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Simple. Bush's ratings are at 19 percent because a) conservatives don't get their news from the national media and, b) he's too liberal. |
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bacasper

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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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They are probably the same 19% who believe the Warren Report  |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Nixon just looks better and better all the time. At least he had the honour to resign over his misdeeds. |
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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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The more I look at McCain/Palin, the similarities to Bush/Cheney are eerie. I don't see how the American public could allow more of the same.
The plus side is that if 19% of the people still support Bush...then that 19% is probably what is strongly riding the McCain/Palin train that seems to keep chugging along (despite it seeming unfathonable). |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Bush's approval rating isn't as bad as Congress'. One poll for them pegged them at 13% this summer. |
Yeah, but if you asked people what they thought about their own individual congressman or senator, the numbers would probably be higher. |
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