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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: any "real clubs" outside of Seoul? |
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taking the discussion of "just go to Seoul" aside for the moment
(it's a major inconvenience and I don't like the idea of sleeping in a public sauna)
I live in glorious Gyeonggi-Do in a fairly decently sized city ( around Ansan). There are supposedly almost 500,000 people in my city. Lots of immigrants too, tons of Pakistanis and some Filipinos here as factory workers. etc.
While I'm more of a lonesome wolf than many/most, being "alone" has been gnawing at me a bit more than usual recently and I'd love to have somewhere to go and chill out/hang out on certain weekend nights.
the "Korean atmosphere" thing I just don't understand and doesn't interest me (example, walking into a "bar" with Korean coworkers and being isolated in some wooden booth)
I also understand that Koreans never go out alone and only with friends (to sit in their own private wooden booths hahahahaha)
I guess this means meeting people outside of friend circle, etc become very difficult.. (not to mention the language barrier)
but I have to believe that there has to be something... somewhere.. that's more suitable.. hospitable to Western tastes???
suggestions/help would be appreciated  |
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supernaut
Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Wow you sure like to complain, haha. Gyeonggido is a great place to live. I gather if you live near Ansan well you probably aren't far from Jungang Station and its a pretty decent spot and goes all night (although its very Korean)
Ansan aint so far from Seoul, u can take a taxi back or wait for the morning subway.
Also depending on what you mean by near Ansan, you also have Anyang, Suwon or certain parts of Incheon around.
I live in Anyang, love it, and rarely feel the need to go to Seoul. People I know in Suwon tend to go to Seoul more, but they still like it there. |
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rebel_1812
Joined: 17 May 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: |
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go to a korean style night club. It will cost alot, but that is the only way to meet people outside of seoul. |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:20 am Post subject: |
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rebel_1812 wrote: |
go to a korean style night club. It will cost alot, but that is the only way to meet people outside of seoul. |
I'd be more than happy and willing to do that... if I knew where I could find one around here
maybe I'll ask.. though all the teachers in my school, besides being perhaps "too old" for nightclubs live in different cities..sometimes as far as almost 2 hours away!
just what is a "korean style" nightclub btw? based on what I've read here, Koreans almost never go out alone and in the mood/style to "meet people"? (apart from their own social circle?)
by korean style do you mean "booking club"? have never been in one of those but that would wound my pride.. I refuse to pay anyone to sit next to me, if you want to, great.. if not.. see ya , find "happiness" elsewhere
btw. supernaut.
I like not living in Seoul because I don't have to deal with lots of the congestion/traffic issues, so I like living in Gyonggi do in that respect.
but I don't live in a rice paddy. You would think in a city of 500 thousand, there would be at least SOME entertainment options?
I know Ansan and certainly Anyang are far better..but I'm not sure by how much... at least if we're talking about these local "Korean" places.. (they all seem the same to me)
the biggest issue in venturing too far away is I refuse to take subway in the morning once sun is up. that sucks major schlong. I'm like a vampire.. like being up at night.. but MUST be in my "coffin" before sunrise or next day is completely ruined. |
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Papa Smurf
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: |
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bogey666 wrote: |
rebel_1812 wrote: |
go to a korean style night club. It will cost alot, but that is the only way to meet people outside of seoul. |
I'd be more than happy and willing to do that... if I knew where I could find one around here
maybe I'll ask.. though all the teachers in my school, besides being perhaps "too old" for nightclubs live in different cities..sometimes as far as almost 2 hours away!
just what is a "korean style" nightclub btw? . |
A Korean style nightclub involves having a stage and some entertainment such as singers or a band. That's what i've been told.
I've been to a booking style club but just observed. You don't have to buy drinks for girls, it's your choice. You can just sit and drink, and have a dance. If you want, you just tip the waiter well, and he will bring somone over, then you're are expected to buy them drinks or share yours or whatever. |
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bangbayed

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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I think you're getting booking clubs confused with room salons. Booking clubs are basically Korean nightclubs. The girls don't work there, they're just patrons like you. The 'booking' involves the waiter getting other female patrons coming to sit with you. Unfortuately, like you said, Koreans don't go alone to these places and if you go alone, there's not much of a chance two or more women will sit with one guy. The drinks are expensive and I think you usually have to buy equally expensive anju (drinking food).
Just where exactly do you live? That might give us a better idea of where you can go. Gyeonggido is a big place. |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
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bangbayed wrote: |
I think you're getting booking clubs confused with room salons. Booking clubs are basically Korean nightclubs. The girls don't work there, they're just patrons like you. The 'booking' involves the waiter getting other female patrons coming to sit with you. Unfortuately, like you said, Koreans don't go alone to these places and if you go alone, there's not much of a chance two or more women will sit with one guy. The drinks are expensive and I think you usually have to buy equally expensive anju (drinking food).
Just where exactly do you live? That might give us a better idea of where you can go. Gyeonggido is a big place. |
no.. I knew the difference...
room salon is a brothel, an upscale one and basically involves "long time", meaning the girl will stay the night. One of my teachers at school has told me he will treat me to a room salon in Nov. He insists
My reservation with his offer isn't that I'm against prostitution, but I know that especially in Korean way of thinking... all such 'gifts' are expected to be returned/repaid in kind.. and I think pricing for Korean room salons is BEYOND preposterous.
(in fact, last time I went drinking with senior males from my school, we had a discussion about such things, and they refused to believe me when I told them there are tons of places around the world, including some not too far away where an attractive girl will be very happy to spend the entire night with you for 50 USD.)
anyways.. back to the booking thing.
Now I thought that the girls were actually "working" for a cut of the drinks.. I've seen such a phenomenon in many places.. they're basically called "lady drinks" and appropriately priced by a factor of double or triple of regular pricing.
they're just "regular patrons"?
if so, I don't get it... what's in it for the girl?
or is the waiter simply a facilitator/conduit for if she's interested in meeting you? (language barrier will be a huge issue once again, I speak basically no Korean)
would prefer not to say exactly, but Ansan is very close by 
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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bogey666 wrote: |
they're just "regular patrons"?
if so, I don't get it... what's in it for the girl? |
she can meet new faces instead of sitting in a wooden booth with faces she sees all the time. |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: |
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victorology wrote: |
bogey666 wrote: |
they're just "regular patrons"?
if so, I don't get it... what's in it for the girl? |
she can meet new faces instead of sitting in a wooden booth with faces she sees all the time. |
VERY GOOD!
that would interest me!
I will inquire about this concept further with people at school and maybe interest one of my co teachers in accompanying me. One of them I think lives closeby, he's older, but very popular even with younger female teachers.. they say he radiates "charisma" (which he does)
so this is a "korean" and "facilitated" way to meet new people then??
strange.. but then.. lots of strange things here... may have to experience this for myself. |
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PigeonFart
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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bogey666...you're observations are spot on. Their nightlife culture is just the way you described it...and i find it depressing. Unfortunately i can't help you. The only way i deal with having the same problem as you is by going to the foreigner bars in Seoul....but you already ruled that out. So good luck. Keep us posted. |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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PigeonFart wrote: |
bogey666...you're observations are spot on. Their nightlife culture is just the way you described it...and i find it depressing. Unfortunately i can't help you. The only way i deal with having the same problem as you is by going to the foreigner bars in Seoul....but you already ruled that out. So good luck. Keep us posted. |
haven't ruled it out.
but would prefer something more "convenient" (we're all creatures of convenience in one way or another, eh?)
ultimately I'll probably be forced to do it anyways.. and I'm actually quite curious to check them out...
if I had a wingman, it would have already been done, inconvenience be damned. |
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bangbayed

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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The ladydrink thing is another creature altogether. You'll find these girls working for the bar in 'juicy bars' in Itaewon. I think Koreans have their own version called danlan jujeoms, but I'm not totally sure about that. They are usually much smaller and defintely not a club.
Booking clubs are fairly respectable and all sorts of single (and sometimes married) people go to them to, as was said, meet other people. It's part of Korean culture that people don't approach strangers, so the waiter acts as an intermediary. Girls get lonely too. That's their motivation to go there. Of course, from what I've heard, more often than not, nothing much comes from these 'bookings', so don't get your hopes up too much. |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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bangbayed wrote: |
The ladydrink thing is another creature altogether. You'll find these girls working for the bar in 'juicy bars' in Itaewon. I think Koreans have their own version called danlan jujeoms, but I'm not totally sure about that. They are usually much smaller and defintely not a club.
Booking clubs are fairly respectable and all sorts of single (and sometimes married) people go to them to, as was said, meet other people. It's part of Korean culture that people don't approach strangers, so the waiter acts as an intermediary. Girls get lonely too. That's their motivation to go there. Of course, from what I've heard, more often than not, nothing much comes from these 'bookings', so don't get your hopes up too much. |
cool... thanks.
I'd be curious to check one out just for the novelty aspect of it if nothing else.. and the "been there/done that" factor. |
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Kevtron
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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One of these days I gotta check out a booking club as well, just for the hell of it.
I recently moved to Suwon, and it's alright, though there is certainly a lot less nightlife than when I lived in Seoul and hit up hongdae on a weekendly basis.
There are a couple bars here that are western style, and there is one NB club for dancing. So at least there's something, but again, much much less than any of the big drinking/party spots in Seoul. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: any "real clubs" outside of Seoul? |
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bogey666 wrote: |
(it's a major inconvenience and I don't like the idea of sleeping in a public sauna) |
I only did that once. Ugh! After that I either just stayed out all night, or stayed with a friend. |
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