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Is paying taxes patriotic?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
bacasper wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Right the government not Al Qaeda is the number one enemy. It is all a conspiracy.

The government (specifically the CIA) created Al Qaeda.




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Whether the al-Qaeda attacks are "blowback" from the American CIA's Operation Cyclone to help the Afghan mujahideen is a matter of some debate. Robin Cook, former member of the British House of Commons and Foreign Secretary from 1997-2001, has written that al-Qaeda and Bin Laden were, "a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies" and that the mujahideen that formed al-Qaeda were "originally ... recruited and trained with help from the CIA".[52]

However, CNN journalist Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997, calls the idea "that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden ... a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. ... Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. ... The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him."[53] Bergen and others maintain the U.S. aid was given out by the Pakistan government, that it went to Afghan not foreign mujahideen, and that there was no contact between the Afghan Arabs (foreign mujahideen) and the CIA or other American officials, let alone, arming, training, coaching or indoctrination



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

It is good to see that Cook substantiates my claim, but c'mon, Joo. Is Wikipedia the best you can do to refute it?

It has been established that the CIA edits Wikipedia to their own ends.

Wikipedia 'shows CIA page edits'

CIA, FBI computers used for Wikipedia edits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIoaPqoRD7s



Peter Bergen is a much better source than Robin Cook who is just repeating left wing nonsense.

So in other words Peter Bergen never said what he did and it is made up stuff on wikipedia.

And that is a good one Wikipedia is part of the conspiracy to cover up the history of Al Qaeda for the US government.

Thanks for showing us the light.

Rolling Eyes


Anyway answer us this one when was Al Qaeda started up.

Either in 1988 , 1990 or 1996 .Depending on how you look at it.

The Soviets were on their way out of Afghanistan by 1988. So why would the US govt make Al Qaeda?
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biden, apparently, is wrong according to the standing law of the land.

Helvering v Gregory, 69 F.2d 809, 810 (2d Cir. 1934), aff'd 293 U.S. 465, 55 S.Ct. 266

Judge Learned Hand wrote:
Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes
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TexasPete



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say paying taxes is patriotic so much as mandatory. Having said that, the top 1% of the wealthy in the US shouldn't mind paying more taxes. Especially when one considers that the policies of Bush are both responsible for their (the wealthy's) financial growth (at the expense of the rest of us) and for the enormous debts and out-of-control spending by the US gov over the past 8 years. If the wealthy pay a little more and the middle and lower class pay a little less, i won't shed a tear.
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